Gary Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Thanks for The Miracle of Istanbul in 2005 and the FA Cup in 2006 but four years without a major trophy is far too long. The signings you have made are nearly all awful. Please go and do the honourable thing and leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 If you are reading this Rafa please take no notice of Gary. The majority of football fans on the forum would have you stay at Liverpool since you provide endless opportunies for meaningful and structured debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 And a lorra, lorra laughs (copyright Pricilla White) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeway56 Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 It's no time to start a Rafa witch hunt with the next round of the Europa Cup coming up....Prescot Cables away isn't it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 With 4 and a half years or so left on his contract and a p[ossible ?20 million to buy him out of it, Rafa aint going nowhere without being kicked out! The club made a massive mistake in giving him the 5 year contract when the signs were already begining to show that things weren't right and as a result it will cost Liverpool a great deal of cash to sack him. I bet Shanks is spinning in his grave over what has happened at Anfield in the past 10 years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Furious Town Boys Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Its not Rafa's fault, Its those Americans which have ruined the spirit of Anfield. They have done nothing to move the Club forward!! Supplied no money at all, and all they seem to do is hide behind the Club, Liverpool needs some real investment and new owners to have any chance of even catching Man City now (and that is bad in its own right) New owners at Liverpool FC is a must! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Its not Rafa's fault, Its those Americans which have ruined the spirit of Anfield. They have done nothing to move the Club forward!! Supplied no money at all, and all they seem to do is hide behind the Club, Liverpool needs some real investment and new owners to have any chance of even catching Man City now (and that is bad in its own right) According to the 'Liverpool-Kop' website Rafa has Total spend - ?229.65m (not including signing on fees) since the summer of 2004. ?95m more than Ferguson over the same period. The number of trophies for each club over that period shows for itself., so money isn't the issue. However I do agree with the statement They have done nothing to move the Club forward! because that is what has happened at United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgusted Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Its not Rafa's fault, Its those Americans which have ruined the spirit of Anfield. They have done nothing to move the Club forward!! Supplied no money at all, and all they seem to do is hide behind the Club, Liverpool needs some real investment and new owners to have any chance of even catching Man City now (and that is bad in its own right) New owners at Liverpool FC is a must! The trouble is you're your own worst enemies, because it seems a lot of you believe this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I see the following email was awaiting many Liverpool season ticket holders after they got back from the Reading game last night.... counting chickens and all that springs to mind!! FA CupLiverpool v Burnley (4th Round) Saturday 23rd January 2010. Kick Off: 12.45pm The Ticket Office will begin taking payments for the above game from Thursday 14th January. Please note: customers whose payments fail will not be notified due to the short timescale involved. Payment failure and subsequent non purchase of a ticket for this game in the competition will result in the removal from the scheme. We do advise that you check your 'purchase history' on line at www.liverpoolfc.tv to ensure that a seat has been purchased for this game. Alternatively, please contact Customer Services on 0844 844 2005. Season Ticket Holders whose normal seat is available (i.e. the seat used at F.A. Premier League matches) for this match WILL NOT receive a match ticket. The respective fan cards will be activated for this match and Season Ticket Holders should access the stadium using their fan cards. Season Ticket Holders who cannot be offered their normal seats WILL receive a match ticket for an alternative seat. Those customers who are unsure whether their normal seats are available can check for this information on-line or alternatively contact the Customer Services Department for clarification (0844 844 2005). If your credit or debit card has expired or is about to, or you have had a replacement card (even if one or two numbers have changed) can you please ensure that your details are updated as soon as possible to ensure that you are allocated a seat for this game. Details of updated credit or debit card numbers, expiry/start dates etc can be provided by calling Customer Services - 0844 844 2005 or alternatively can be faxed to 0151 261 1416 for the attention of the ACS Team or put in writing to the ACS Team, LFC Ticket Office, PO Box 204, L69 PQ. Please be advised that we are no longer able to accept Maestro, Switch or Solo cards for recurring debit card payments relating to card schemes. For further details, please refer to the terms and conditions in your season ticket renewal booklet.t. Kind Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 As I said on the other thread. Leave RAFA alone. He is doing a brilliant job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Fickle footy fans - he was the bee's knees not long back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Another poor performance at Stoke in a 1-1 draw and just desserts sitting on a one goal lead and receiving a sucker punch - walk now please rafa! I was actually disappointed Liverpool got a point. If we have to keep losing to get rid of rafa so be it! The guy simply has got a clue! Football is a business and in any other peroformance such under achievement results in the sack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Fickle footy fans - he was the bee's knees not long back. Not with me he wasn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 It would cost too much to sack him Gary, that's why he is still there now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 So if that last-gasp shot had gone in, instead of hitting the post, Rafa would not deserve the sack? Look on the bright side - at least you don't have Wenger! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithR Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Interesting to see that in the percentage of league games won Rafa is better than Shanks. (1)Kenny Dalglish 60.71% (2) Rafa Benitez 56.19% (3) Bob Paisley 56.08% (4) Bill Shankly 52.38% (4) Joe Fagan 52.38% (6) Gerard Houllier 50.00% (7) Roy Evans 48.26% (8)Graeme Souness 40.87% (9) Roy Evans & Gerard Houllier 33.33% And according to the Liverpool fans website the bad run at the moment is to do more with dreadful bad luck, injuries to key players, criminally poor refereeing decisions, a biased and vindictive media hungry for blood, a thin squad, and massive expectations. Now that's why Rafa won't go because the majority of Poo fans don't want him to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 And Ferguson isn't there at all? Wow. Never would I have picked Kenny to top that list. Amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Proof that statistics don't tell the whole story. Shanks started from scratch and early results were poor, Rafa took over a much better team as did Dalglish. LP, why would Fergie be on a list of Liverpool managers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeway56 Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Judging by Rafa's body language and light heartedness it seems to me he's trying to engineer the sack for himself. I too would be tempted with a document for 20 million quid in my back pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Proof that statistics don't tell the whole story. Shanks started from scratch and early results were poor, Rafa took over a much better team as did Dalglish. LP, why would Fergie be on a list of Liverpool managers? Oooooh! I hadn't actually made the connection that these were the top ten Pool managers. I thought it was a bloody funny selection, but equally, I know I'm no expert on managers, so I just thought I was wrong in terms of League success. Now EVERYONE knows I'm no expert on Managers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Ok I am a Leeds fan, but a more interesting debate would be; Are Americans and English football compatable as two big north west clubs seem morgaged up to the hilt, now I don't thing any of them will go the way of Leeds but it can not be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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