Bazj Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 An Iraqi asylum seeker who killed a 12-year-old girl in a hit and run accident in 2003 has amazingly won the right to remain in Britain. He ran away from the scene after he ran over the girl and then faced deportation but successfully invoked human rights legislation granting him the right to a "family life" in the UK. He was jailed for four months by Blackburn magistrates for driving while disqualified and failing to stop after the accident. He also flouted his driving ban in 2006 when he was caught driving while disqualified and with no insurance. He is an Iraqui Kurd and said it was too dangerous to go home and won his appeal using the "Criminals Charter" I really hope these Human Rights lawyers and its advocators have a few sleepless nights and maybe the death of an innocent girl on their conscience..... although I doubt it. Bloody amazing.... Happy Christmas Everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Agree with the sentiment but it's no good blaming the lawyers. They do what lawyers are supposed to do - aiding their clients. The simple answer is for someone in government to do something positive to appease the 95% of the population who would agree with the thrust of the thread. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments Baz BUT; the HR lawyers don't give a flying fig about the scum they get off, as they're making a killing out of legal aid - and NONE of the main Parties are going to ammend the HR Act in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 Anyone who does not regard himself as subject to the laws of his chosen country, really should not be permitted to invoke them as protection when it suits him. There should be a clear "three strike rule" on this issue. He was banned once for an offence, then caught driving during that ban (and therefore driving without insurance), then banned again for some offence, but drove again, had an accident and left the scene. That's really enough in my book to fail his citizenship test and be politely asked to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 one solution would be to make it too dangerous for him to stay here. a few well chosen suggestions that he might be safer elsewhere would do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Alas, I fear that unless something is done about matters such as this one, where he clearly should be chucked out of our country, then citizens will take matters in to their own hands, in some cases in the form of a lynch mob. Personally, I think that any non British person convicted of a prisonable offence, should automatically be deported. We have enough of our own criminals without "imports" being here as well. My guess is it won't happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Errm, these folk come over here with the intent to stay; the usual tack being an appeal for assylum. It would be quite simple to require ALL such assylum applications to be made in a British Embassy in their Country of origin or an adjacent country to their country of origin - and treat any immigrant entering this country without a visa as an illegal entrant subject to immediate deportation - before the HR lawyers can get within 5 yards of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robot Posted January 7, 2010 Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 one solution would be to make it too dangerous for him to stay here. a few well chosen suggestions that he might be safer elsewhere would do the trick. How about China Sid? Especially after the recent execution of Akmal Shaikh there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted January 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2010 Excellent idea Robot. Glad to see you are entering into the spirit of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Well the latest one bequeathed us by an HR court decision, is the rise in sham marriages between E/Europeans (who have a right to reside here) and non-EU citizens. So we can have a Lithuanian girl, who can hardly speak a word of English, being paid to marry an Afghani, who can't speak English, in order to exercise their "human right" to marry each other - not a lot of pillow talk there - but perhaps lots of laughter at our expense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Quite right, Obs, they should damn well pay English girls, just as in your day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Older than Obs. Damsels in my day. Seriously, this country must be a laughing stock overseas. With all the benefits, the streets must appear paved with gold. Who can blame them for coming here? Certainly, it's not the weather. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Today's "English girls" do it for nothing LP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 We're not a laughing stock at all. We actually have a country where people are treated decently for the most part, and that makes this a highly desirable alternative for many. Why should that be a source of shame? Britain is not perfect, not by a long way, but it's a lot better than a lot of other places! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 It would seem those who continually allow themselves to be taken advantage of, are viewed as a laughing stock by those that take advantage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 No, Obs, the UK is viewed as an extremely desirable place to live by those who want to get here. When they do, they count themselves lucky and appreciate it. Personally, I think there's a case for deporting all the moaning indigenous citizens who constantly roll their eyes and carp about the place..... so dear heart, if this place is so bad, where would you rather be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Like a life boat is a desirable place for someone with only a lifebelt; but what you bleeding heart liberals can't grasp, is that the lifeboat is full and rations are finite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Like a life boat is a desirable place for someone with only a lifebelt; but what you bleeding heart liberals can't grasp, is that the lifeboat is full and rations are finite. Bleeding heart liberal? Me? Hardly. I was planning to chuck you and your fellow OAPs overboard in favour of someone who doesn't complain every two minutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Unfortunately for you, in the real world - you don't have the strength! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Unfortunately for you, in the real world - you don't have the strength! Oh come on, Obs. If I arrived in a nice pair of boots, you'd go weak at the knees and be in the water before you knew what was happening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Dream on LP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Obs you have not answered Lp question, where would you rather be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Possibly a warmer climate, but that would involve me commiting the same sin of migration that I'm criticising - so the answer is - in an immigration free UK: it's people who are the problem, not the place; and we now have too many of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 To many of what; All people or just those with a different skin colour or who's first language is not English Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Yup, sanctimonious prig is right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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