AdrianR Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 I was at that game - think I was 20 - Didnt we beat Tottenham 1-0 with a Goal from Beardsley - right hand corner of the box at teh annie road end if I remember rightly. Rafa is a good eropean manager - dont think he understands the principle that a settled side can bring in the league. Didnt we win it once with just using 17 players? Think he'll be gone this summer whoever is in charge rightly or wrongly. However the yanks worry me with their idea of a replacement. With that Klinsman will probably win the Bundasliga next year.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James P Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 No I don't and just because I wasn't very old when we last won the league doesn't matter one bit. I to had a season ticket up until very recently. No settling for fourth place isn't acceptable, of course not. But striking the balance between domestic success and European dominance is very difficult. United, Arsenal and Chelsea have not had the later stage of European Cup competition to deal with in recent years and have been out classed on the European stage on more than one occasion, which definitely aids them in the league. Domestically they have the winning formula no doubt when they don't have an eye on doing well in Europe. I just can't see how changing the manager now and having to give someone new time to work with his own squad will help? And if not Mourinho then who? :confused: Benitez can bring the league back I?m sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Wannabe scousers arguing with plastic scousers As Harry Hill would say .......fight! fight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Wolfie. Clarication please which is the wannabe scouser and which is the plactic one. James how can you say Chelsea haven't had the latter stages of the Champs league to contend with didn't we beat them in the semis when we won it?. As adrian has said Rafa has not set up his team for the league we lose possession to easily and never go out to kill a team off at the earliest opportunity, until he gets that in his mind set we will not win the prem. John [ 23.01.2008, 16:51: Message edited by: JayC ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Which is more important? Winning the Premier or Europe? I would have thought that most would prefer to win the Premier, as the European cup can be more of a lottery, even though it would be nice to win it. Forget the Eu cup, how long has Rafa been there and has he improved the team that much? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC Posted January 23, 2008 Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Peter. Any fan of any top flight team will say the league title is most important the Champs league is a massive task and a great bonus but the league is the one we all want. John [ 23.01.2008, 17:23: Message edited by: JayC ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2008 Calm down lads, calm down. It's only a game :bounce: :bounce: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Asp. Sorry all calm now , curly perm and nylon shell suit have been stored in mothballs until required again. John. P.S. Good job you sold that car I would have had them wheels (see you can take the boy out of Liverpool , but you can't take Liverpool out of the boy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Originally posted by James P: But striking the balance between domestic success and European dominance is very difficult. United, Arsenal and Chelsea have not had the later stage of European Cup competition to deal with in recent years and have been out classed on the European stage on more than one occasion, which definitely aids them in the league. Over recent years one could say that by the time the knockout stages of the Champions league are upon us Poo have had nothing else to go for. wherehas the big 3 are still in there fighting for the big one. JayC: I wasn't aware a real scouser ever put his shell suit away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Wolfie. Packing away the shell suit is a passage of rights its packed in mothballs now to be handed down to the next generation of the JayC clan oh how proud I will be when Wayne or Waynetta dons the nylon and bunks off school. Oh happy days. john Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 As long as no one pinches it in the mean time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Originally posted by James P: And here is the classic example of the fickle football fan. How anyone can question the man's abilities is beyond me. You do not win the Spanish league with a team two years running that is in the shadow of Real Madrid and Barcelona and not have something about you. And anyone that can win the champions league with Traore, Dudek, Cisse, Kewell and Baros in the squad deserves a medal alone. The league form isn't acceptable and I'm not trying to pretend it is, but I think he has had a real scare with the latest Klinsman offer incident and I think if he is still in the job next season, he will change the priorities from Europe to the league. Rafa is still the best man for the job and is only a couple of players from completing the jigsaw. As for the "Special One" an egotist like that will never be welcome at Anfield and doesn't exactly have a great track record with foreign owners Liverpool fans should know better and show some faith in the man that has brought us the kind of success the club had in years gone by. I CAN question his abilities now because he has taken the team backwards in the League and on their current position they will not even qualify for the champions league. Do you agree with his team selections like picking one forward for a home game, persisting with Kewell who is not much better than a lame duck and keeping Crouch off the pitch for most games when he was our leading scorer last season and always creates a threat and even a goal when he comes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James P Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 How exactly has he taken us backwards? The state the club and the team was left in when Houlier left was unbelieveable. Time is key in management, even those of the caliber of Ferguson take time to stamp their own authority on a side. I think he's doing to Kewell what he did with Zenden, putting him in the shop window if you like. I have to say I do think Crouch deserves more starts and you can't argue he is a threat. Babbel is an exciting proposition and will be a main stay in the team next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayC Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 James. James we are in 5th it isnt exactly going forward is it, if he keeps selecting the team the way hes has been doing then we will not qualify for Europe. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Everton might qualify instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James P Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Yes but considering that the league doesn't finish tomorrow I personally think we'll be alright! got a game in hand and still got to play the toffees at Anfield. Heard a rumour that Clattenburg is reffing the derby again so we'll defo be alright! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I thought that "where you are in January" was the yardstick. Don't forget that they have "drawn" one game in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Seeing that the majority of Poo fans on this forum have lost faith in Benites? Does Alex Ferguson's support of him as a manager reinforce their doubts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James P Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Haha possibly! No I think Ferguson can appreciate the situation, he knows what its like to feal with american owners and to his credit, he has won them over, but then again I don't think even the Glazers would have contemplated removing him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 It is annoying when there is no point entering a debate because other posters are agreeing with what I would say if I did join in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I totally disagree with that statement! :spin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Why am I not surprised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2008 I'm saying nothing, I'll leave that to the clowns in red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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