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Some 60,000 Dutch farmers stood up to the might of the British Empire, and gave 250,000 Imperial troops the run around - until along came Gen Kitchener with a strategy: a system of block-houses with high quantities of barbed wire to restrict enemy mobility, the systematic burning of all Boer homesteads and the stripping of the countryside of all livestock; the forced confinement of all Boer civilians in "concentration" camps which caused 26,000 of them (mostly children) to die - all of which finally brought the Boers to the peace table. Wonder if it could work with the Taliban? :?

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I was drawing out the fact, that there are solutions to problems, but some solutions are considered too draconian to employ, thus we finish up operating with one arm behind our back. :? The down side of course, is that such a strategy would alienate even further indigenous support for what is, after all, a foreign occupation - so perhaps, on balance, we need to find a political solution and bring the troops home? :shock:

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Nope: the conventional enemy was NORTH Vietnam, and aside from raining bombs on them, no attempt at occupation of the North was attempted, thus allowing them a base of operations and supply against the South. The Tet Offensive by the Viet-Cong was a political and media coup, but a military failiure. The Viet-Nam war was lost in the living rooms and Campuses of the USA, having watched 50,000 body bags returned home - the Communists however probably lost ten times that number, but with superior moral and belief in a cause - they endured - and won. :shock: In Afghanistan, we have had a changing mission thus no military strategey to attain a clear objective - the Taliban have a belief and a clear objective - and it's their Country we're occupying. They'll be there when we finally leave. As for Brown's feeble nonesense about keeping terrorism off the streets of Britain; the London bombers were home grown; ideas don't need a passport. :shock:

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"tried" what? If your refering to concentration camps, they didn't; the Brits DID coral the local population into concentration camps in the Malayan insurgency, to isolate the guerillas from supply and support - and we won that one. :? However, in the case of V/Nam, supplies were brought from N/v.nam via the Ho Chi Min Trail, despite torrential bombing by the USAF, underground bases were built close to Siagon (indeed one was under a US base!). The outcomes of war are never certain, but a clear political objective and moral resolution allows for a clear military objective - something the Afghan adventure seems to lack. :cry: H: when you have folk believing that if they die, they go to heaven; and worse, if they die as a martyr they'll enjoy 20 odd virgins; there's clearly no one at the the door to their minds to block the message. :cry:

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