observer Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Well it seems Dave has adopted the PC positive discrimination, by having women only shortlists for the selection of his MPs. As this is all about numbers rather than merit; perhaps they will finish up with an exact replication of all race, gender and age groups within society - social engineering or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Another own goal in my opinion. Constituencies need to be able to vote for the best woman/man for the job. Labour tried this and look at the shower of harridans they ended up with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I often wonder why harridan (scolding old woman) is named after two men. Wouldn't something like bettimeg be more apt or even lymmparent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 On the basis that I am two women? Or in the cowardly hope I'd not see that post as I don't play in the politics forum? Â Erroneous either way - and coming from a man named after a comic and a bald bird, well..... glass houses old boy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianR Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Only to be introduced in those constituencies who havent yet chosen theirs. Sounds liek a threat rather than action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 I think Adrian is right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Still, thin edge of the wedge, so Dave can put a veneer on his Party brand. It's extremely patronising to think that a person can get into parliament solely on the basis of their gender or race, rather than their ability, regardless of race or gender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 So if I read the idea correctly; if you are black, disabled, female or in some otherway not a white male, you are suitably inferior so as to need special treatment in order to achieve a job as an MP? Â So where is the democracy in that train of thought? ....."OK chaps, you may have wanted the white ex copper as your MP, but we have too many whitey types in Parliament at the moment so we are letting you have the one legged, black lesbian instead; just to keep things PC you know!!" Â Oh My God..... this country really has been taken over by crackpots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 It gets worse Baz: they've set quotas for the Police and Fire Brigade - the theory being that their composition should be "representative" of their percentage in society at large - no mention of physical strength or mental ability or even interest in the career; many finish up claiming large amounts of cash on a discrimination case and leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 So as a (slightly) overweight 40 something, I should be able to join the sea cadets so that they too truly represent the community at large? Â Stupid Labour nonsense again. How the bloody hell do these people expect someone in a wheelchair to climb a ladder to put out a fire? Because if they don't employ a wheelchair bound firefighter,, they are breaking the spirit of their own exercise. Â Mind you I suppose that is why we have 4ft 6" dolly birds as coppers these days instead of imposing 6ft 5" men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 The "disabled" get suitable jobs as control operators, the 4ft dolly coppers snap at your heels until they can find a 6ft bloke! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Not very "PC" Obs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Not very "PC" Obs  You may have said that in jest Sgt, but some of these loony liberal types would actually believe it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Errm, are you sure he was jesting Baz?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2009 Seems the Tories are now going the way of New Labour, with all women short-lists dictated by Central Office - aside from the obvious patronising "positive discrimination"; motivation seems to be two-fold: 1) to assemble a majority of YES wo/men to suppoert the Party Leadership and 2) provide folk of the requisite intellect to become Gov Ministers, rather than some rustic independent from the sticks. Meanwhile, local parties rightly want to choose their candidates on the basis of merit and their representative qualities. Now there is a way of accomodating both desires, by simply modernising Parliament by: allowing local parties to pick their candidates for the Commons (legislature); and by getting rid of the House of Lords, and replacing it with (an Executive) Senate, of 100 members elected on the proportion of votes per Party; from Party lists - sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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