AdrianR Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Noticed from the train when passing yesterday that poles are going up on the Cockhedge Roundabout (A49/A57) that look suspiciously like traffic light poles. Now I hope they arent traffic lights as WBC dont have a good history when it comes to the same and roundabouts. As this is a key intersection chaos could ensue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 God forbid Saying that Observer has been moaning about roundabouts this week Driving down Sankey Way mid afternoon (past David Lloyd towards town) I stopped at the red lights near David Lloys Leisure. Lights turned to Green and the traffic moved on and then came the confusion and scarey looks because the traffic lights from Cromwell Avenue (Peace Centre junction) had ALSO turned to green at the same time ....... all traffic from the two directions converged at the same time from different directions onto the dual carriageway Could have caused a nasty accident and never seen that happen before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Thought it was another "skittles" artwork! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Speaking of traffic lights, does anyone know what?s happening with the lights they installed at the junction of Manchester Road and the M6? They?ve been up for well over a year now but are still covered with hoods and so could be in line to break the record held by those at Cromwell Ave/ Calver Road. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Could this be the way forward? http://tinyurl.com/nzmop9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Why not just paint yellow box's at all junctions? It's cheaper than traffic lights, and providing folk know what they are there for, will allow gaps in lines of traffic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Because people ignore them Obs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Including Police traffic cars too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahl Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Planned road improvements The Cockhedge roundabout has to cope with extremely high traffic flows and at times drivers can suffer from considerable delays both on weekdays and at the weekend. These difficulties can be severe during the busy Christmas shopping period. Particular difficulties are experienced with traffic travelling north on the A49 (Brick Street), which has to give way to a high traffic flow approaching from the A57 and also has to cope with traffic exiting the Cockhedge Shopping Centre car park. Additionally during peak shopping periods queues are often a major problem on the A57 Midland Way approach to the junction in the area of Golden Square. So, in order to better manage and control traffic using the roundabout it is proposed to install part time traffic signals on the A49 Brick Street and A57 Midland Way arms of the junction for use at peak times. These lights will work alongside the existing pelican crossing on Brick Street. The traffic signals will be introduced for an initial trial period, with regular monitoring undertaken to check effectiveness and success. The works have now started and are scheduled for completion in mid-August. They will be undertaken during off peak traffic periods and overnight to minimise disruption as much as possible. The works will be part funded by Golden Square Shopping Centre. To find out more contact John Redmond, the council?s deputy traffic manager via jredmond@warrington.gov.uk or on 443252. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 How's about, driver caught entering yellow box junction, when exit is not clear - automatic re-test? That should get everyone re-reading the highway code! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 The lights could be a good idea, as they will only be on when traffic is chaotic. It is a bit of a lottery at busy times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianR Posted July 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 show me a set of lights they have got right recently and then i'll consider it i.e. westbrook, calver road and lights near M6 above as examples of not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 show me a set of lights they have got right recently and then i'll consider it i.e. westbrook, calver road and lights near M6 above as examples of not working. Adrian, while I will concede that the lights at Westbrook were a huge abomination and a waste of money and should have been ripped out the first time they started causing problems; they do seem to have got the ones at Calver road somewhat better. The main problem is the fact that there are still not enough signs telling drivers which lane they should be in and you will still get the BMW drivers who scream up the outside lane and carve up other users at the lights heading towards Callands. Mind you, it did take a long long time to get it right and one must question whether the idiot who designed the setup in the first place should have been very publicly sacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Your getting soft Baz - publicly flogged! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Your getting soft Baz - publicly flogged! I'm sorry... you are of course correct Obs..... although flogging wouldn't be enough for some of the council idiots WE employ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Perhaps they should bring back "the stocks" - bit of public participation?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skittles Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Part time lights which will no doubt become full time ones soon, like on the roundabouts on Winwick Rd, M62, Sankey Way and so on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 So they put lights on the Midland Way round about; should guarantee a queue of traffic back along Brick St to Mersey St round about - thus argueing for lights to be installed on that round-about. Plus you've got the contrived access/exit from Asda, just to complicate matters still further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 The ones from Long Lane and Winwick were only allowing one car at a time today, the Winwick crew were constantly blocking the roundabout sitting there looking dumb. Obviously out of towners on a day out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianR Posted October 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 See front page today. More messing with lights at a junction that is already gridlocked in rush hour. I cannot envisage how this and the secretive Part 2 development will help this junction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 As you say Adrian, the junction is already gridlocked at busy times and the situation can only get worse. So is your solution to sit back and do nothing? Or maybe remove the lights altogether and have a free-for all? Perhaps this time they will come up with a solution that will work. I dice with death every time I walk into town this way and would welcome some improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianR Posted October 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 underpass? Footbridge? I also cross that junction but have little problems. I am just worried about their past record and inevitably making things worse than better. This is a main cross river route and needs to be treated accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 My worry is the way the pedestrian always gets disadvantaged. e.g. footbridges and underpasses, even pelican crossings, always involve the pedestrian having to walk further than necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahl Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Ah but Asperity, isn't this what gordon gopher and his bunch of thieves want. People to walk more so he can then impose stealthtaxes on shoes, clothes and the amount of air you contaminate by this extra distance?r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianR Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 They have started work on these and as expected, the road is being narrowed. The left turn lane to head down to bank quay has gone. Didnt think we had such congestion on pavements that they needed to be widened or in this case doubled in size. Wont be a problem for pedestrians, the'll be able to walk through the stationary traffic easily. However the lights werent workign this morning and loo and behold no queues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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