Bazj Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Seems that despite massive public opinion in favour of allowing ex-Ghurka soldiers to settle here and enjoy the benefits of the country they have defended with no restraints, this disgraceful Labour Government has once again turned its back on them Content with allowing asylum seekers and illegal immigrants from every corner of the grabbing world to congregate in France with a view to catch the next bus across the Channel, Brown and his bunch of disgusting, fiddling parasites have put certain conditions on Ghurka troops having entry into the country. Now the Government has decided to allow those soldiers who retired prior to July 1997 the automatic right to live in the UK - but only if special circumstances apply but in true Brown fashion; have set criteria that are unattainable. They require a Gurkha to have served for 20 years but a Ghurka rifleman is only permitted to serve for 15 years before he has to retire!. Their lawyer said ?It?s a sham and an absolute disgrace." ....And who are we to disagree??!! This Government is quite prepared to let into this country the scumbags of the world but not Gallant and Loyal Gurkha's who have served this country for 200 years. How is it we now have to allow migrants from all over the eastern block to come here and live off our benefits, but the very troops who have defended us against the threat of the east for generations are treated with utter contempt? This decision makes me ashamed to be British Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 this disgraceful Labour Government Nothing else needs to be said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Baz well said and so very true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I to think it is a disgrace, but it might be a symptom, the government listening tp peoples clap trap about immigration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I to think it is a disgrace, but it might be a symptom, the government listening tp peoples clap trap about immigration what on earth are you going on about sgt? This isn't immigration, this is a right that should be bestowed on these people. It shouldn't be a right for some random foreigner to be able to come and live here just because his government has decided it would be a good screw to get a few billion in handouts every year from your mates in Brussels. A real case of getting priorities wrong in every way and if this lot did listen to peoples concerns about immigration (not claptrap as you put it) we would not have all these illegal mouths to feed in the middle of a recession. Every country in Europe stated a maximum limit of migrants except us.... another case of Bliar and Brown thinking they knew better when in fact they got it wrong again dad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Baz well said and so very true... I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Think there's slightly more involved in this decision than meets the eye. Having served with the Gurkhas I have the utmost respect and admiration for their military history and skills; however, at the end of the day, they are, in effect, mercenaries employed by the UK. They are foreign (Nepalese) nationals, and thus have no more rights to enter the UK than other foreign immigrants. The British Army, due to an inability to recruit indigenous UK nationals, is now recruiting from former colonial countries, such recruits being entitled to UK citizenship after 5 years service - something else that's wrong. So, like Premier League footballers, we now have a "foreign legion" of mercenaries. All this build up of "entitlements" will presumably form a legal precedent, which will, according to Phil Woollas - open the flood gates. So, reluctantly, some good flesh has to be sacrificed, to cut out the bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 So therefore Obs if they have no more rights than other foreign nationals then vice versa they should not have less rights than other foreign nationals. So why are the government denying them access when any other Rod, Pole or Abdul are welcome to join our benefit handout society? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Think there's slightly more involved in this decision than meets the eye. Having served with the Gurkhas I have the utmost respect and admiration for their military history and skills; however, at the end of the day, they are, in effect, mercenaries employed by the UK. They are foreign (Nepalese) nationals, and thus have no more rights to enter the UK than other foreign immigrants. The British Army, due to an inability to recruit indigenous UK nationals, is now recruiting from former colonial countries, such recruits being entitled to UK citizenship after 5 years service - something else that's wrong. So, like Premier League footballers, we now have a "foreign legion" of mercenaries. All this build up of "entitlements" will presumably form a legal precedent, which will, according to Phil Woollas - open the flood gates. So, reluctantly, some good flesh has to be sacrificed, to cut out the bad. I am amazed you could compare a Ghurka to a mercenary Obs, if they were purely mercenaries, I'm bloody sure the Argies would have paid them a damned sight more than the UK did to fight the Falklands war! The British government SHOULD give priority settlement rights to persons who are willing to fight for this country, but instead we give those rights to any tom Dick or Harry who wants to come over and sponge off us. With regards to the Commonwealth and former colonial countries having soldiers signing up; just remember that the last person to win the VC in our army was Pte Beharry who was born in Grenada and he saved the lives of a few of his comrades when some rampant raghead was wanting to kill them in Iraq. And also endured brain surgery after the event as a result of injuries received. If he wasn't already living here, would you deny him the right to come and live here with his family and yet allow some Iraqui to stay who has jumped a truck from Calais? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Sorry to be so consistent Baz; but my position is quite clear: NO foreign nationals should be taken in as immigrants; any skill requirements can be based on tempory visas. As for being mercenaries, that's a fact, they are employed by the UK Government to serve with the British Army as a unit. Pvt Beharry, was recruited cos they can't recruit enough indigenous squaddies, and no doubt, if it hadn't been him in his heroic situation, it would have been someone else. So let's not get carried away with sentiment folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 The British government SHOULD give priority settlement rights to persons who are willing to fight for this country, but instead we give those rights to any tom Dick or Harry who wants to come over and sponge off us. and blow us up!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Well the little Gurhas have won their battle - so as they say; an emotional decision made in haste, can now be repented at leisure. Notice their wage as U.K. soldiers is 16 times the average wage in Nepal, which no doubt explains the incentive to fight for Queen and Country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Obs, Your reference to "little" Gurkhas is a disgusting indication of the way you view anyone who doesn't conform to your ideal. BNP for you then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Actually a physical fact, but meant more as a term of affection, I having served alongside them - rather than the comments of some armchair semanticist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Bollocks! The rest of your post confirms your disgust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted May 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 ....well I bet you never aired your views when serving alongside them Obs..... they'd have cut your bloody head off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 No Baz; cos at the time they never even thought it possible to live permanently over here, so it wasn't an issue. Seems your getting over emotional again Eag, so it's no wonder your ilk are prone to daft decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 The only daft decision I made is to get involved in a discussion with an irritating knowall like you, and a racist to boot. Not anymore, there are better things in life than reading constant bile and bigotry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Well you can fly away then, but I somehow doubt it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 Seems as though that the Gurkhas arriving in the UK are having to turn to charities in order to survive. Big campaign to give them the right to live here, not sure taking up that right is in their best interests. Here is the story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6977077.ece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 6, 2010 Report Share Posted January 6, 2010 The road to disaster is paved with good intentions - yet another myopic liberal decision not thought through. Perhaps Joanna Lumley will put them up at her house?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 Anyone fighting in our armed services should be looked after, after they leave the service, it is the least we can do, these people have been willing to lay there lives down for this country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Yet another myopic liberal sentiment without an iota of thought to the implications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 So what would you do abanden them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Nope, they should have been paid the same rates as our squaddies from the beginning, which would have allowed them to live like Kings in Nepal - instead, we've finished up with some coming over here destitute and dependent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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