Eagle Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 There must be a few Eastern Europeans around who could help remove the problems that occur when a bit of forecasted snow arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Adolf Hitler was democratically elected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 So, does that mean "democracy" is not acceptable when it's outcomes don't suit your views? Actually, old Adolf only won around 20% of the vote under a PR system, unfortunately, the other right wing conservative parties supported him, cos of their fear and hatred of the left. BTW. Had to laugh at Mandy's comment, that British workers should go out and seek work in Europe; reminded me of Norman Tebbit's famous quote that we should all get on our bikes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Actually, Tebbit did not tell us to get on our bikes. He said his own father had got on his! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 I fail to see any logic in a system that encourages, even forces workers to commute half way round Europe, when the required skills are available locally - yet another example of the nonesense that is the global economy, and contravenes all the aspirations with regard to reducing global warming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 It has been in the news that the contract was signed 3 years ago, when most people still had a job  Observer  Global warming has now crept inot a couple of your posts, Is this an agnoligement by you that its happening, if so can you tell Asperity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 Nope; I merely refer to it, as we have been assailed by these arguements by this Government for many years now, the same Government that is promoting global movement - thus it exposes THEIR hypocritical position. Mere logic pursuades me that "localism" is preferable in many ways to "globalism"; including the latest "crisis" arising from a bit of snow, due to a reliance on "commuting". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Adolf Hitler was democratically elected  Gordon Brown wasn't........ so does that mean democracy is better or not.....!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 His party were, The UK vote parties into power not personalities (like the USA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 His party were, The UK vote parties into power not personalities (like the USA) Â But in this case I would disagree because people voted for Tony Bliar and Nu labour and voted for him as a personality and voted for him and his party when he stood up before the last election and lied that he would complete a full term. Â Gordon Brown wasn't elected but Tony Bliar was..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I've checked we still vote party's in to power in the UK, How can you vote for a personality I don't remember seeing Tony's name on the ballot paper only that of his party and the local labour candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Oh.... ok then. So none of the big tide of euphoria that surrounded Labours win back in 1997 was to do with the fact that Tony Bliar was the leader and not Neil Knnock. Â Nothing at all. All of those Tory voters defected to Labour to give them the swinging victory because they liked the Labour party and its ideas and not the young, dynamic leader that was fronting them? Â If you believe that you are as naive as you appear from your signature Lt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Who's the naive one I vote for a party not a personality, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 I'm glad you vote for a party.... many millions didn't and that was how we got Bliar and ended up with one eyed Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Fraid Kyje is right on this one Baz; in the UK we vote (on a first past the post basis) for individual MPs. Whichever Party has then a majority, provides it's Leader as PM. That isn't to say, that in this era of personality cults, many vote for a Party cos they think their Leader is nice looking - more a criticism of the electorate methinks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Actually, in common with all elections since the beginning of the 20th century, the governing party were elected by a minority of the electorate. In the last election only about 25% of the electorate voted for Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Sadly the cult of personality is growing in British politics, Started in my opinion by Maggie,Blair cought on quickly and moved it forward in leaps and bounds, and it looks like cameron will use it at the next election, the Labour party will not be able to do it this time as its hard to have a personallity when your dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Fraid Kyje is right on this one Baz I must be having a positive effect on this furum, Observer is agreeing with me  Please don't make a habbit of it or it will get boring , if this carries on you will be voting for a single currency next,and my work will be done  Flying Pig alert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 I endevour to agree with factual observations and logical deductions - irrespective of from where/whom they come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Spoil Sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 If the policy of the EU is the "free movement and employment" of labour, when can we expect our first E/European MP for Warrington?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Not soon enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Not soon enough  You really would have been strung up 60 years ago for being a collaborator you know Lt!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 I think Baz you will find you are a tad more to the right in your politics than me, sixty years ago you would have been fighting for the other side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 I think Baz you will find you are a tad more to the right in your politics than me, sixty years ago you would have been fighting for the other side  What...... the Americans?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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