observer Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Seems this Government want's to create a central data base, with all phone records transfered into it: phone records are currently held by the phone companies, mobile phone records can trace your location at any time your phone switched on. There's the ?5billion still earmarked for ID cards - despite the recession; and it seems we have more CCTV cameras in the UK than any other European Nation. They're still trying to get all our medical records on IT, despite a failed IT system; so they can be included in this amassing of data. Seems they're now considering an eCAF form, based on answers given by children, without their parents knowledge; and the DNA data base is being topped up with each and every arrest. Information is power, something that our rulers have realised since the Doomsday Book was created by William the Conquerer. SO; are you relaxed on the basis, that "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" OR do you fear this progression into an Orwellian nightmare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 The latter. None of the things that are happening or about to happen will stop crime etc. taking place because the perpetrators live in a different world to normal people. So lets stop wasting time and money and get on with things that benefit the country and it's citizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Interestingly, the biggest expansion in criminal activity has been in IT crime - plus we have Gov and their agents losing discs and memory sticks all over the place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 You can't talk about Big Brother and expect people to associate it with Orwell now, y'know. They will think you are talking about a TV show that's even worse than Jonathan Ross! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 You have a point; hell of a lot of pond life out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 According to Jackie Smith, folk are queing up to get an ID card - errm, anyone know anyone who want's one?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Speaking of Big Brother haven't they started to announced the celebrity contestants for the next show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 According to Jackie Smith, folk are queing up to get an ID card - errm, anyone know anyone who want's one?! Â Those queuing are probably those being forced to have one....immigrants for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Why houldn't migrants with appropriate required skills NOT seek to comply - I wouldn't call it forced more complying with UK law? Â I'm sure that they are only too happy to do so especially if they have a positive work ethic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Perhaps the question Geoff. , should be; what are they doing here in the first place, with unemployment forcast to be over 2 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Are you now changing your original question, hypothesis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Geoff, we've been through this one before; the fact is they havn't got a clue who's here, how many there are or what they're up to - so how are they going to issue any ID to those who are here illegally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Obs we are were we are for whatever reason and you can arue it which ever way you want we are now looking forward. Â Measures are being put in place and this will take time as most changes do. The appraoch appears to be a sensible one and is broken down into stages. There is no big bang appraoch. Â The world is a much more fluid market place from when you were at work and people are able to travel and work all over the world with a great deal more opportunity than they have ever had. Â To prejudge the start of a longterm solution is a bit premature but I think that it is a move in the right direction. Hopefully the civil service will get a grip and this time put the appropriate check and balance in place. Â The Aussies seem to have a firm grip maybe we could learn a few tips from their premier Mr 07, 24/7 and now 747? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Hopefully the civil service will get a grip  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Hopefully the civil service will get a grip and this time put the appropriate check and balance in place. Â Â More hope than expectation Geoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 I know I'm ever an optomist or as Sir Humphry once said to me Geoff - Reorganizing the Civil Service is like drawing a knife through a bowl of marbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyz Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 If you travel to USA now, they want your fingerprints and iris scan. I don't think that will stop a "once through" suicide bomber! In the meantime, we all get treated like criminals having our dabs etc taken for that big database no doubt shared with UK Govt and accessed by all and sundry or left on a train somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 Don't go in your pyjamas - you've no chance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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