observer Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Is it anyone else's buisiness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Got to be careful that people aren't being encouraged to commit suicide by relatives, and that suicide isn't in fact murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Got to be careful that people aren't being encouraged to commit suicide by relatives, Or by Party leaders as David Cameron seemed to suggest at the tory conference earlier this month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Take your point Paul; but if certified by two independent Doctors as sane and rational, the wishes of the individual should be honoured. A fairly logical and altruistic act on the part of that young Rugby player imo, releasing him from his own torture, and taking a burden from his family and the State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Totally agree with you observer , you know your not that bad for a euro skeptic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Assisted suicide: I am all for it depending on the circumstances - If I could have I would have helped my father die more quickly than he did - after watching his pain worsen for 23 days, he finally died. I thought "If he had been a dog, they would have put him down humanly", but he was a man so he had to suffer. Life is ironic and moronic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateoflymm Posted October 20, 2008 Report Share Posted October 20, 2008 Yes I could agree with you, Mary, in the case of my own father. He was in hospital suffering from lung cancer when he had a stroke. The doctors, in their wisdom, decided to "let him go" and, in effect, starved and dehydrated him to death. I saw him 6 hours before he died and I wanted to end his suffering. I would have put a pillow over his face but my conscience stopped me. I have agonised about it ever since as he, himself, would never see an animal suffer that way and never did. The medical staff, in my dad's case, did hasten his death. He would have lived at least another 6 months with medical intervention but the method they used, withdrawal of all sustenance, was inhumane and cruel. Had they asked me, I would have sanctioned a quick injection. God forbid I will end my days at the mercy of the the present laws regarding assisted suicide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Is it anyone else's buisiness? if its not then it can't be assisted..its solo! (or was that what you were sayibng ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzodog Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Take your point Paul; but if certified by two independent Doctors as sane and rational, the wishes of the individual should be honoured. A fairly logical and altruistic act on the part of that young Rugby player imo, releasing him from his own torture, and taking a burden from his family and the State. But what if they're sane & rational but not terminally ill, as per the rugby player in question? Would you still say that the medical profession (& the state) should asist in their suicide? The problem is, where do you stop? Someone is a bit depressed & says they want to end it all; because the doctors who agree to participate in this practice are the ones who will believe that the individual should have their wishes honoured, as you say. And please don't think I'm attacking you, Obs. My mother died of cancer couple of days ago I believe you me, if it were me, at this moment in time I would want to be able to end it. But like I say, where do you stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 It's an ethical debate, open to all points of view, the point is none of us has the right to consign others to their wishes, whatever position they take. People with depression, I suppose would be regarded as mentally ill, and thus not of sound mind to make a rational decision? A fit young man, used to sport (rugby), suddenly discovers his mind is trapped in a body that doesn't function - seems to me, that he made a rational decision. The nature of his disability would naturally require "assistance" - however, I do tend to wonder why others do need "assistance". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavyG Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Assisted suicide would putting a plank on top of the Widnes bridge help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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