Adam Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 From today's WWW "STARS like Madonna and Michael Jackson, who have both hit 50, are being used as examples to inspire Warrington's over 50s to live life to the full. Organisers of a "Full of Life Festival" in Warrington, to mark Older People's Day, want the Over 50s to join in. And they point to Paul McCartney and Mick Jagger, both in their 60s, as role models." What a load of condescending tosh! People over 50 don't need role models. And if they did, the last ones they would choose would be the likes of Michael Jackson, Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger and Madonna. Most people over 50 I know live their lives to the full without the aid of silly ideas like this. Let the council spend their money on today's youth - with a campaign to show they don't need role models either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 The idea of promoting mega rich celebrities as role models is as insulting as it is patronising. I dread to think what advice Wierdo Jacko can give me to make my life more rewarding. I am surprised WWW posted the garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Will they be including Amy Whitehouse and George Michael in the list of "role models"?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 I'm still laughing I'm all for people living life to the full and keeping fit but I just hope my dad doesn't read the article and decide to follow the roll models lifestyles .......Plastic surgery, skin whitening, drink, drugs, wild parties but to name just a few of the roll models passtimes over the years Mick Jaggers got 7 kids by 4 women too ... not bad for a really ugly bloke Madona had a relationship with a bisexual model and porn star amongst other unusual relationships Michael Jackson.... went completely weird and is a recluse Who needs roll models like them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Rumour has it that Mick Jagger was well endowed and became a MEMBER of the British Empire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 so as person who is over fifty (only just over fifty i may add) i would love to have the time to live a fuller life such as hiking, fishing, socialising. however i just find that i have not got the time. having to work to pay the bills and buy little luxuries (like food). having read through the article i see that they are giving painting taster lessons. i don't have time to paint the backgate let alone a picture. creative writing. so some person is going to tell me that i am writing my poetry wrong? oh well it's just a thought maybe they will give me bit of their money to help out but i very much doubt that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateoflymm Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 I'm over 60 and I am a role model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 I agree. What a load of tosh!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Seems Sir Jagger was suggesed a roll model for the over 50?s in a government sponsored report back in June 2000? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/jagger-is-official-role-model-for-oldies-715448.html and here?s why .... guess who modelled himself on the rocker http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2006/jan/06/popandrock Too much laughing for one day... I'm not reading anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 As somebody who is falls into the 50s category, words fail me...well almost. Role models...what a load of rubbish, some of the role models who are mentioned don't bare scrutiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 ... you could be the council's in house guinea pig Paul to see if governments wacky findings do actually work You may even become the next Blair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 As this topic unfolds, it would appear that some folk are getting the idea that this is a government initiative. The article makes it clear it is a Warrington Borough Council venture - supported by the Mayor no less. Incidentally, I am going to lie down in a dark room. I am not accustomed to anyone on the forum agreeing with anything I say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 As this topic unfolds, it would appear that some folk are getting the idea that this is a government initiative. The article makes it clear it is a Warrington Borough Council venture - supported by the Mayor no less. Incidentally, I am going to lie down in a dark room. I am not accustomed to anyone on the forum agreeing with anything I say! Seems a good idea to me. Mick Jagger was a role model to millions of kids when he was young for being in a band, drinking to excess, having 'it away' to excess, drugs, partying etc etc so why shouldn't he be a role model to the over 50's now at the age of 65. He is still drinking (evian), partying, and having 'it away' Rock on Mick. There, happy now Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 As this topic unfolds, it would appear that some folk are getting the idea that this is a government initiative. The article makes it clear it is a Warrington Borough Council venture - supported by the Mayor no less. Incidentally, I am going to lie down in a dark room. I am not accustomed to anyone on the forum agreeing with anything I say! The 'Full of Life' venture ISN'T a WBC venture actually If you look at the councils web site it gives the link to the government campaing page as below (although it doesn't mention the daft role models) http://campaigns.direct.gov.uk/fulloflife/older-peoples-day.html there are hundreds of events on accross the country. and also the other link I gave earlier from the Indepentent in 2000 does say Jagger is official role model for oldies..... says a Government-sponsored report to be published...... The document, prepared for the Cabinet Office[/b.........The report, the product of two years of research at Warwick University and 28 pilot studies across the country, was sponsored by the Cabinet Office, Age Concern and Help the Aged among others. blah blah blah.... although it does seems to relate more to discrimination of the elderly. Maybe it's just a bad press release and the two have been accidentally merged as when you take away the ridiculous role model idea the rest seem quite a good idea Anyway for once I have stuck up for the council... please make a note as it may not happen again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Yes, Wolfie. I feel much better! Seriously though, I don't think its a good idea even with the role model bit removed. I don't think anyone should be encouraged to have role models. Certainly not "celebrity" role models. The fact that someone happens to be a good rock musician (and I dispute the existence of such a being!) doesn't make them necessarily a role model for anything else. Jagger certainly wasn't (and still isn't). But even if I am wrong on that, people over 50 certainly shouldn't need role models. If they do, they are beyond help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Meanings certainly have changed over the years. Rock stars/football etc. used to be "idols". Role models used to be pillars of society who set GOOD examples/standards. Adam, I like the last bit.(beyond help). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Peter T Do you remember the Peter Sellers spoof interview with a rock star? Sellers, playing the part of an interviewer, asked the rock star: "How does it feel to be a rock idol?" The rock star (also played by Sellers) replied: "Nuffin much different really because I was idle before I became a star." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted September 25, 2008 Report Share Posted September 25, 2008 Nice one Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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