McBain Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Well, I cannot deny that Obs but at some point a Minister or similar is going to have instruct a back-room johnny to spray this with a sheen of planning respectability. Mind you, I doubt that there would be a rational debate even then - particularly when one considers the woeful state of WBC committee reports. Who decided that dumbing everything down to the point where a 3 year old would be embarrassed reading them was a good thing Oops, sorry... I forgot the Members had to be able to have a go at reading the reports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgusted Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Just reading the little farticle by Jo Crotty, I'd love to see the evidence on which she bases her assertion that the presence of a Titan prison would deter investors in the area. You'd get investment, just not high-tech investment And what are you basing your opinions on? What investment would you get? Why would IT investment be less likely than retail for example? And why is IT a bad thing, we will become more and more technologically advanced as years go by, so attracting the IT industry to Warrington is a long term plan, not a short term stop gap because criminals are one of the few a growth industries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Apparently Jack Straw was reported on TV as saying Omega would be a "good site for a Titan prison." I know where my money would be now if you could get odds at the bookies on the outcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBain Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 If the IT industry was remotely interested in Warrington it would have been here long before now. The fact is that Warrington does not have the necessary links to established centres of excellence and learning that places like Cambridge does and so the IT sector will continue to focus on such locations. IT is a "knowledge" based sector - and Warrington isn't exactly storming up the league tables in that regard is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 If the IT industry was remotely interested in Warrington it would have been here long before now. The fact is that Warrington does not have the necessary links to established centres of excellence and learning that places like Cambridge does and so the IT sector will continue to focus on such locations. IT is a "knowledge" based sector - and Warrington isn't exactly storming up the league tables in that regard is it. We have a PC World.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 There used to be quite a few IT and high tech companies in Birchwood. They were mainly based around the BNFL/UKAEA site and, I'm thinking, were attracted by the skills base in the area. They're mostly all gone now, and we no longer have a big high-tech employer in the town to form a kernal. Daresbury Science Campus does some exciting stuff, but since they lost out to Cambridge on the big accelerator they're not really an international centre of excellence. Warrington is more and more becoming a service sector town. Prisons are service sector, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 The BNFL/UKAEA site was responsible for the biggest influx of "newcomers" to the area which suggests the required skills were not available from locals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgusted Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 The BNFL/UKAEA site was responsible for the biggest influx of "newcomers" to the area which suggests the required skills were not available from locals.Of course not, as they were new, it takes time for the skills and experience to be built up, firsdt you need to attract the industry, then you need to train your youngsters in the skills to supply that industry. Growing up in Aberdeen, many was the gripe that "all the good jobs go to Yanks and Guffys"(in the oil industry), but fast forward 20 years and you'll see that predominantly these self same positions are now filled by Aberdonians, indeed Schlumberger (the world #1) is now run by an Aberdonian. You need to plant acorns to grow the trees...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trojan Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 There used to be quite a few IT and high tech companies in Birchwood. They were mainly based around the BNFL/UKAEA site and, I'm thinking, were attracted by the skills base in the area. They're mostly all gone now, and we no longer have a big high-tech employer in the town to form a kernal. Daresbury Science Campus does some exciting stuff, but since they lost out to Cambridge on the big accelerator they're not really an international centre of excellence. Warrington is more and more becoming a service sector town. Prisons are service sector, I suppose. No longer have Daresbury Science park either seeing that it's in Runcorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrdy Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 No longer have Daresbury Science park either seeing that it's in Runcorn Don't you mean Halton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Just a thought - do prisoners have a vote?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 No longer have Daresbury Science park either seeing that it's in Runcorn Don't you mean Halton? With a WA4 post code it puts it in Runcorn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I thought postcodes merely represented which office sorted that areas mail. Lots of post codes contradict where a place is defined as being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 So what's the post code for Crewe? That being the main sorting office for Widnes and Runcorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 From the Royal Mail Site: The first one or two letters is the postcode area and it identifies the main Royal Mail sorting office which will process the mail. In this case EC would go to the Mount Pleasant sorting office in London. The second part is usually just one or two numbers but for some parts of London it can be a number and a letter. This is the postcode district and tells the sorting office which delivery office the mail should go to. This third part is the sector and is usually just one number. This tells the delivery office which local area or neighbourhood the mail should go to. The final part of the postcode is the unit code which is always two letters. This identifies a group of up to 80 addresses and tells the delivery office which postal route (or walk) will deliver the item. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 So WA goes to Warrington sorting office and the number 4 directs it to Moore eh in Runcorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Exactly, postcodes do not define an area, better you look at who provides your dustbins to determine whose authority you fall under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I realise that you are going around in circles and I am not sure what point you are trying to make, but I repeat my initial quote which you have yet to disprove ie With a WA4 post code it puts it in Runcorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 OK.... So where do I live ? Runcorn/Halton OR Warrington.... (I have a WA4 postcode) Talk about confusing..... Stockton Heath did used be be part of 'Runcorn Rural District Council' so have we now returned to our roots ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Latchford is WA4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 So is Latchford also now in Runcorn/Halton .... Guess if we are it's one way out of us paying WBC their 4% Council Tax increase... and can we gat a refund for all the other years we've paid them too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Dismayed, postcodes do not define anything other than how your mail is delivered. Look at your bin, whichever council provides and empties it is a sure way to know where you belong, they won't do it for free now will they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 When trojan first stated that Daresbury Science park was in Runcorn he was correct. For some reason inky pete said that he must mean Halton. Halton is made up of several post codes including WA4 WA7 WA8 and L24 in the case of Hale Village. They refer to the sorting office for that location. However the second part of the post code then helps to define the geographical location. I stated that with a WA4 post code Daresbury Science Park is in the Runcorn part of Halton as opposed to WA8 - Widnes or L24 -Hale. The fact that WA4 covers other areas was irrelevant. However it is interesting to note that post codes have been widely adopted not just for their original purpose of automating the sorting of mail but for many other purposes such as insurance premium calculations and as a way to describe United Kingdom locations and addresses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byrdy Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Daresbury is not & never has been in Runcorn.Both Daresbury & Runcorn are in Halton.Daresbury used to be part of Warrington many years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 . For some reason inky pete said that he must mean Halton. No I never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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