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Seems the Irish have had a referendum on the new EU constitution, sorry Lisbon Treaty: most have no idea what they're voting for or against; but what if any effect will a "NO" vote have? :? Well, in theory, it should vetoe and scupper EU plans for a full time President, Foreign Minister and Diplomatic entourage (more jobs for the boys); but alas as many of the changes are already being put into place, the faceless bearocrats in Brussels will no doubt circumvent the will of the people - again. :shock: So much for the idea of "democracy" that we are continually pressing on other nations around the world. :wink:

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The comrades have already said there is no plan B if the Irish vote no. The main plan will carry on and the Irish will be left on the sidelines until they see the error of their ways and come back into the great community of nations to be embraced once more by BIG BROTHER. Enough said. We really need to get out of this corrupt empire while we still have a country we can call our own. :roll::roll::roll:

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The Irish have voted "NO" to the Lisbon Treaty (The Constitution under a new name). So no country that has been allowed a referendum on this has voted for it. Will the comrades get the message? Not a chance. Big Brother knows best and us plebs had better get used to it. :cry::cry::cry:

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Ah but of course what the Eurocrats will say is why should 800,000 ish Irish NO voters "hold back benefits" :? for the 400+ million people who live in the EU area. :wink:

 

Seems to me the 800,000 have got the right idea. Think the EU could do with some serious pruning, citizens are struggling to make ends meet, last thing they want to be paying for is an expensive Eurocracy, burdoning us with ever more rules....and costs. :x

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Spearheaded by British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and French President Nicolas Sarkozy, the EU and its member states, in their relentless pursuit of a federal superstate, may break its own laws and ram through the Lisbon Treaty despite it being rejected by Irish voters today.

 

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/june2008/061308_ram_through.htm

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The Irish openly admit that they didn't understand what they were voting for so then went for the safe option in their minds and voted for no change. Now let's see haven't they done this before and then changed their minds after all they are entitled to aren't they?

 

The comrades have already decided they can't pull that stunt again. Even most of the dimmest of "citizens" are beginning to cotton onto that trick (but not you Geoff?). The way they will probably go is to side line Ireland while the other 26 states ratify the treaty without asking their "citizens" opinion, and then let Ireland reapply for full membership when all the hoo ha has died down. They are already implementing most of the provisions of the Lisbon Treaty without full ratification anyway. As far as these arrogant bureaucrats are concerned we, the people, are just an inconvenience best ignored. The sooner the whole rotten edifice collapses the better.

 

:evil::evil::evil::evil:

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Ah but of course what the Eurocrats will say is why should 800,000 ish Irish NO voters "hold back benefits" :? for the 400+ million people who live in the EU area. :wink:

 

Seems to me the 800,000 have got the right idea. Think the EU could do with some serious pruning, citizens are struggling to make ends meet, last thing they want to be paying for is an expensive Eurocracy, burdoning us with ever more rules....and costs. :x

 

It would seem that, rather than 800,000 Irish holding back 490 million Europeans, there are 9,225 politicians misrepresenting their 490 million constituents. :roll::roll::roll::roll:

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European policymakers figured the only way they could pass the pro-business treaty was to make it as unreadable as possible. It's no wonder, too. According to multiple sources, the treaty contains language that would restore the death penalty and override national decision making on critical issues. So much for sovereignty!

 

"I also discovered some very sinister organisations none of which the mainstream media informed us about. Organisations such as the Transatlantic Economic Council, the Transatlantic Policy Network & the Streit Council which seeks a union between the US and Europe, and whose agenda is clearly a political as well as an economic union. In the fall 2007 journal of that body, a world bank economist said that you could not have economic integration without political integration."

 

News of the defeat has not been well received in England where the neoliberal government of Gordon Brown has already indicated that it will reject the election results and "press ahead" in an effort to ratify the treaty. Neither Brown nor his friends in Brussels are likely to be deterred by anything as trivial as the will of the people.

 

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/june2008/180608_a_blow.htm

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