tara Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 This from TD steve nott tara Some need to act now we need answers now in the public interest why are pink ladies not licensed and plated when all cars which take the pubic have to be by law they are not a PH or A taxi just a car so why are they taking the public around . We need councillors on record to this fact and should be answered more will be put on this matter soon but this need action now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 What was wrong with the 38 page thread that currently running about the very same issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 I think you will find that they are within the law as it currently stands as they are not trading as a Private Hire or Taxi organisation but a private members organisation. Any way I have asked the relevant authorities for an update on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 What was wrong with the 38 page thread that currently running about the very same issue You might well ask Dismayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 I think you will find that they are within the law as it currently stands as they are not trading as a Private Hire or Taxi organisation but a private members organisation.Any way I have asked the relevant authorities for an update on the situation. Obviously so Gary but 'how' seems to be the number one question on some people's minds A simple answer and explanation 'why' would have ended all the speculation a long time ago. Interesting back in January the Council Licensing Dept were actually advising people that PL's were indeed trading outside of the new licensing laws and meetings were in hand to resolve the 'problem', guess this added to the confusion Anyway after all the meetings and letters they have obviously sorted it out now and PL's are still exempt. Good news for all the childminders and other bods who have hopefully also become exempt from the new rules in the same process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 2, 2008 Report Share Posted June 2, 2008 What was wrong with the 38 page thread that currently running about the very same issue You might well ask Dismayed. Ok so now I'm asking .... 'What was wrong with it?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 I think you will find that they are within the law as it currently stands as they are not trading as a Private Hire or Taxi organisation but a private members organisation.Any way I have asked the relevant authorities for an update on the situation. Obviously so Gary but 'how' seems to be the number one question on some people's minds A simple answer and explanation 'why' would have ended all the speculation a long time ago. Quite simple - they have a private members club! The council are unable to comment because it is still with their legal department! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 What was wrong with the 38 page thread that currently running about the very same issue You might well ask Dismayed. Ok so now I'm asking .... 'What was wrong with it?' Search me. Some people seem to be getting very incensed about it and want to spread their displeasure around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Maybe the thought ?Any publicity is good publicity? is being applied to this instance but overall, I think a topic like this is probably more damaging to this company than anything. Had the company simply set its goals on providing a specialist lady only taxi service within the current laws, then I believe they could have been more successful by remaining focused on their objectives. As I see it now, the company?s future hangs in the balance and much depends on whether or not WBC can afford the legal expense of pursuing this matter. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Had the company simply set its goals on providing a specialist lady only taxi service within the current laws, then I believe they could have been more successful by remaining focused on their objectives. As I see it now, the company?s future hangs in the balance and much depends on whether or not WBC can afford the legal expense of pursuing this matter. Bill I always thought that any licensed Taxi cannot refuse a fare? thus making an Exclusive service for Females impossible as that would break the laws of a licensed Taxi? or are the rules different in the UK..?? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Steve All companies be they private hire or hackney can legally refuse to take a fare provided they have good grounds for refusing. If they were to refuse anyone based solely on their race, colour, sex, disability etc they could indeed have their licence to operate withdrawn. In the case of Pink Ladies though, there isn?t the option to revoke a licence because as far as I know the cars aren?t actually licensed. That said, the sex issue doesn?t appear to be the main bone of contention and it?s more the case that the company seems to be cocking a snoop at the council by refusing to accept any of the rules that govern the rest of the taxi trade. They are, by any stretch of the imagination, just a small private hire company that believe that they should be exempt from the rules due to their uniqueness. But in my considerable experience of taxi companies across the UK, I see absolutely nothing unique, other than the refusal to comply with the law. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 in a way i can see what they are doing by snubbing the normal Taxi laws, if the abided by those laws then they wouldnt be able to offer a female only service... Oh well when i am over i wont try to call them.. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Steve I don?t think the objections from the trade relate to the ladies only issue but more the fact that that their drivers and cars are not being subjected to the same legal testing requirements and are so are avoiding all the associated fees that other companies have to pay. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 I understand that but if they were to do that wouldnt they then be a Taxi firm and not be able to refuse a fare because the person was a male? so i guess they are in a catch 22 Saying that i have not seen any of there Vehicles so i have no idea what state they are in and if they are in roadworthy state and upto the standards of other Taxis? but i am sure this has proberly been stated on the other thread.. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Steve No that isn't necessarily true because the company could still continue to operate wholly on account trade just as they do now. I have several clients that work this pretty much this way and do very good business without the hassle of cash or plonkers. Companies that operate this way don't tend to promote their telephone numbers or have walk in offices for the public. Instead, they have an account manager that allocates either a credit account or a prepaid top up card system. Either way, there's no legal obligation on them to issue an account so they effectively get to pick their own customers just as Pink Ladies do now. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Now thats interesting!! you have several cliets who run their business the same way as Pink do!! does anyone else complain about what they do as they are here on here?? Anyway i cant say much on this as i am not there and i know dip about the taxi business!!.. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I have no doubt given the publicity on this Forum, if they are breaking the law, the Law will catch up with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Steve Perhaps I didn?t make myself quite clear. All companies companies in the UK (except Pink Ladies) whether they operate conventionally or accounts only, are still legally plated and comply with all taxi rules and regs so nobody can object. I?m sure if they were to come into line, their business would actually benefit. Unless the company is running on empty, the additional costs involved would be worth it if only to restore public confidence and remove bad publicity Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara Posted June 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 gary you will find that you are wrong as some information will be comeing your way soon this matter. this is a big Public safety issue as well as by law. as I will be contacting you soon with what is going to happen to show this as with WWW. backing I hope to get the matter sorted one and for all. And with WWW help we will be helping the public to see for them self?s. one thing Gary there is no such thing as a members club. Only Private hire or a taxi by law. if you can show me where it say other I would be most grateful to you. gary taking someone word on this matter gary like you have done could give the wrong impression all but be licensed so why arre they? that why with ww help I will be involving all the government body?s to this question more to come soon. I would be willing to have a chat with you Gary to talk about this matter as I think you would like where all this is going. As I will be off in internet for a bit on this matter would be ok if you could give us a ring to make a date to have a chat and look at this matter . gary not getting at you as you have done more on this matter that others but your information is wrong only that its what you have been tolled is wrong that all, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 It must be murder trying to have a conversation with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 TD, this has been going on for years now and even after all the "they will be off the road after January 31st" stuff last year. Fact is they are still trading because of a loophole which allows them to do so and that the council seem reluctant either due to potential cost or because they think they won't win, to challenge them. There are seemingly more of these cars on the road than ever at the moment so nothing is being done to discourage them. As I have said all along, I disagree with the whole concept of women only stuff as the women were the first ones to kick up a stink when they couldn't get into the mens golf clubs etc. However I would still prefer to be driven in a pink 54 plate Kangoo van with seats in the back than a K reg Sierra and a rusty old Astra belching smoke.....which are a fine example of warrington taxis?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the taxi team Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 there are no sierras on as taxis in warrington and a lot (50ish) are under 3 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Pink ladys Taxis are subject to a court hearing so for the time being i am going to lock this thread and i will delete any other threads that are started on this subject untill further notice. Steve Admin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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