observer Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 With the shocking case of children being starved to death by ignorant parents; is it time that such an onerous responsibilty required some form of qualification? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 given the current education issues with absenteeism, lack of classroom discipline etc . would there be any point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted May 24, 2008 Report Share Posted May 24, 2008 Not sure the vast majority should be penalised by the unfitness of a very small minority to be decent parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 It would be difficult if not impossible to enforce unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Currently, Social Services (through the Courts) have powers to take children (at risk) into care. A slightly more proactive approach would merely be an extension of that. Clearly we have some folk who are totally unprepared for the responsibilities of parenthood, some form of screening, with training and conseling could prepare them or allow intervention PRIOR to such tragedies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Surely that's how the system is supposed to work now isn't it? Unfortunately we keep getting cases come to light where the Social Services have either failed to intervene when they should, or have gone completely the other way, taking children away from parents citing imagined "satanic abuse" and such like. Better training of social workers may be a better option than training of parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 Reading a "sci-fi" artice in the Daily Mail, I understand males are going to be phased out and that birth of new humans will come under state control...problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 25, 2008 Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 I get the impression I've been "phased out" already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2008 There is no "preventative system" in place, other than in cases of mental deficiency. Anyone, can become a parent, whether intentionally or not, but not everyone is sufficiently capable of fullfilling the role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissy Posted May 26, 2008 Report Share Posted May 26, 2008 Sadly there have always been inadequate parents and there is enough evidence to support the cycle of deprivation theory. Parenting classes should really be on the school curriculum. Children spend so much time learning stuff that will be of absolutely no use to them in adult life, and essentials such as parenting and household finance never get a look in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 In the absence of parents being allowed to chastise their kids, it seems they're now having to resort to bubbling them to the police - so instead of a brief and painfull sanction, they now end up in prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 I was at MacDonalds on Winwick Road today and saw a young mum give her baby boy who could not have been more than 1 a happy meal with nuggets, chips and a cup of Coke. Â So yes, parenting classes should be made a legal requirement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bazj Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 You may laugh but the mother was trying Obs.... she had her best liverpool top on and her cleanest tracky bottoms!! Â Class! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 ... and only the one kid? Must just be starting out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 I had 18 years of parenting classes from my parents. Â parenting cannot be taught from any other source, anything else is a pointless class which will be met with resentment and riddicule. Â its sad but true, the bad parents of today are a product of the bad parents of the 60s & 70s. Â the only way to change this emerging epidemic is through chavTV. Â make a reality program "I'm a bad parent get my kids outta here", lowlives dont like their own reflection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 make a reality program "I'm a bad parent get my kids outta here", lowlives dont like their own reflection. Â Â Perhaps with a celebrity presenter, maybe someone local Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Now I wonder who that could be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 ... and only the one kid? Must just be starting out! Â it may have been her grandchild.... she was about 18 after all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geoffrey Settle Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 You may laugh but the mother was trying Obs.... she had her best liverpool top on and her cleanest tracky bottoms!! Class!  But she was a local from Warrington wasn't she? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 yes geoff..... and Warrington being half full of Scousers to the West and Mancs to the East..... why would that be unusual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted June 14, 2008 Report Share Posted June 14, 2008 Exactly there are very few if any Warringtonian left living in Warrington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 If the criteria is "born and bred in"; one presumes all second generation scousers and mancs will now be Warringtonians?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 So after a generation or two you won't be able to tell the difference they'll be all the same or has that heppened already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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