Nuclear question

[Confused52]

A full twelve hours after Sky News the BBC has told us that Russia is holding drills of its Strategic Nuclear Missile Forces near Moscow today. Russia regards any weapon NATO provides to Ukraine as a dire threat and yet NATO on our behalf does not tell Russia that their drills are a dangerous provocation. Why?

[Observer II]

Why are drills/exercises provocative - both sides have been at it throughout the cold war ?   Indeed, Russian bomber probes have tested our air defences on a regular basis, and I'm sure the RAF appreciate the practise of intercepting them; likewise US SAC would test the Soviet air defences in a similar way.   The red line of course, for the Russians, is that no NATO troops or aircraft enter Ukraine, a non NATO Country,  although some nutter MPs like Tobias Elmwood are pushing for it -  that's when all the Russian practising would be given effect and we can all say goodbye.   💀

[Confused52]

26 minutes ago, Observer II said:

Why are drills/exercises provocative - both sides have been at it throughout the cold war ?   Indeed, Russian bomber probes have tested our air defences on a regular basis, and I'm sure the RAF appreciate the practise of intercepting them; likewise US SAC would test the Soviet air defences in a similar way.   The red line of course, for the Russians, is that no NATO troops or aircraft enter Ukraine, a non NATO Country,  although some nutter MPs like Tobias Elmwood are pushing for it -  that's when all the Russian practising would be given effect and we can all say goodbye.   💀

The drill involves deploying lots of intercontinental missiles to practice firing them. Recently the US cancelled a test fire of a new missile to avoid creating a provocation despite having told the Russians about it months in advance. When NATO do reasonable things it is a provocation and when Russia does things we just ignore it and in the BBC's case don't even report it. Why do we listen to the rubbish that the Russians put out at all without any push back. Ellwood wants to get rid of Boris to roll back Brexit - don't take him seriously. Not even the Russians do that.

[Observer II]

Just wondering about the "reasonable things" NATO has done - like invade Serbia, Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan, leaving a trail of misery and destruction behind them; all outside their theatre of operations, which was the "defence" of western Europe, and they're now seeking to stick their nose into the far east.   It's merely a tool for implimenting the US "rules based" world order promoted by the globalists,  which the arrogant and hypocritical Yanks pursue in contrast to their own Monroe doctrine.   Clearly the "cold" war never stopped, and is now merely warming up;  with each move on the strategic chess board being monitored and countered by both sides. The Russians will no doubt reposition from time to time their mobile launchers, which will be monitored by US satellites,  their ICBM silos will have been pre-targeted, as will the US ones, all in preparation for that political blunder that will kick it all of into WW3.  It's like kids playing with real guns, and we all live under the threat of this mutual destruction.  No doubt NATO is peeved that, after a bad and costly start, the Russians are now pursuing a more methodical attritional  offensive in Ukraine, with the objective of destroying the Ukrainian Army, using their superiority in artillery and heavy weapons, in a slow grinding advance.  The Ukrainians are pursuing a politically driven strategy of defending (to the death) each and every town, making them suseptible to heavy bombardment and encirclement, plus heavy casualty rates.   So it will go on for some time, until Zelenskey (or Putin) is forced to the negotiating table or forced out by his own military to concede.   Meanwhile, the much acclaimed economic embargo by the West, has already backfired, hence the threat of power cuts and food shortages.  All we can hope for, is that the bellicose hot heads, like Ellwood and Co, are kept in their boxes.  💀

[Evil Sid]

In the words of every US general in a disaster/alien invasion/unknown weather condition film... "Nuke it and if that doesn't work then try something else".

fortunately those sort, whilst existing, are few and far between, we hope.

Personally i suspect the Russians are just trying to get rid of their surplus stack from the last war before it is past it's use by date......🤭

[Observer II]

With a demented US President, and a UK PM desperate for a diversion from his self inflicted domestic woes, encouraging the Ukrainians to fight on to the last man, we're now seeing the inevitable outcome of the war play out, in a Ukrainian defeat.   The only question remains, which Western Leader will commit the final folly of taking us into WW3.  The West has discovered that the days of fighting third world opponents in the M/East have given way to total war, like WW2, which is demanding in industrial support for high military weapons consumption; something the West isn't prepared for, but the Russians are.  The promise of NATO weapons systems for Zelensky, ignores the fact that Ukrainians require training and time with new weapons systems, assuming they escape location and targeting by Russian missiles.  Meanwhile the much vaunted "economic" sanctions have fallen flat, and are now having a detrimental effect on Western and World economies, something that Putin appears to have prepared for.   💀