Observer II Posted May 12 Report Share Posted May 12 Well I just watched a politics prog, where the liberals remainers were criticising the DUP for not forming a N/I Assembly, until the Protocol is removed. It's clear that the they haven't given up on the idea of getting us back into the EU, and more concessions to Brussels on this would do just that. The Gov promised "to get Brexit done", but left us with this umbilical cord to the EU, which imo, was designed ultimately to severe N/I from the UK and create a united Ireland. Why for example, didn't we have a border between Eire and the EU, rather than Ulster and the UK ? There are and always were the possibility of a trade war with the EU, but that would be the price of real independence of the UK outside the EU. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted Sunday at 04:17 PM Author Report Share Posted Sunday at 04:17 PM Well it's clear that Boris's "oven ready deal" with the EU has finished up burning in the pan; he's thrown the DUP under a bus and has no intention of "getting Brexit done" by scrapping the N/I protocol. Meanwhile all the remainer forces in Parliament are preparing to block any attempt at a "no deal" Brexit, no doubt waiting for a hung parliament to take us back into the EU. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused52 Posted Sunday at 06:49 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 06:49 PM 2 hours ago, Observer II said: Well it's clear that Boris's "oven ready deal" with the EU has finished up burning in the pan; he's thrown the DUP under a bus and has no intention of "getting Brexit done" by scrapping the N/I protocol. Meanwhile all the remainer forces in Parliament are preparing to block any attempt at a "no deal" Brexit, no doubt waiting for a hung parliament to take us back into the EU. 😠 Scrapping the protocol isn't the right answer in my view. The key problem is that the EU is still holding out on food safety. That despite the fact that our food safety is the same as theirs. The EU is just using the protocol as a non tariff barrier to trade within the UK. That is definitely not what the treaty allowed for so we should force that issue to arbitration and only withdraw if we lose since that would represent a breach of good faith in the negotiations and would entitle us to withdraw under the treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted Sunday at 08:44 PM Author Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:44 PM Fine, but it goes a bit deeper than that. It's quite clear that the EU want to assist Eire in creating a single State on the Island of Ireland, and the election of SF as first Minister is the first warning sign. If Boris throws the Unionists under a bus, they'll have nowhere to go but violence. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused52 Posted Sunday at 09:07 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 09:07 PM 19 hours ago, Observer II said: Fine, but it goes a bit deeper than that. It's quite clear that the EU want to assist Eire in creating a single State on the Island of Ireland, and the election of SF as first Minister is the first warning sign. If Boris throws the Unionists under a bus, they'll have nowhere to go but violence. 😠 The Irish Republic charges people EUR 100 for attending A&E, the wages for public servants are higher in NI than Ireland the public spending per head in NI is even greater than Scotland. Living Standards in the Irish Republic are only 80% of those in Northern Ireland. Basically the Irish Republic cannot afford to keep Northern Ireland in manner to which they have become accustomed. When the costs and worsening conditions are made clear it is not certain that a Border Poll would work for Sinn Fein when the Republic consider the loss of wealth they would suffer. SF are the largest party but they do not actually have a majority so cannot govern just as they like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted Sunday at 10:19 PM Author Report Share Posted Sunday at 10:19 PM As we know from Scotland, economics doesn't cut through with the fanatics, younger voters are more likely to fall for the Nationalist propaganda. Boris needs to sort this out before the Union dissolves. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted 19 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 19 hours ago Seems Boris never had any intention of "getting Brexit done"; otherwise he would have ensured that every Tory candidate in the 2019 election was a Brexiteer. Unfortunately for Leave voters, we have 135 "Remainer" MPs in the Tory benches in the Commons and even more in the Lords. Which just underlines the complete lack of conviction of Boris to get anything "done". 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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