Evil Sid Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 The difference being that the Ukranians are not trying to enter illegally, but via the proper channels, rather than the English channel. As a result they are being made to jump through hoops to prove their bona fides, unlike the illegals who just turn up and are immediately treated like long lost relatives. My opinion for what it is worth but echoed by many across the country,if not the world.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted March 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Granted Sid, and perhaps the Ukrainians, unlike the rest, will go back as soon as it's over; but we've got 2 million from Hong Kong on their way, plus the 30,000 illegals from last year, with another 30,000 predicted for this year - Whilst Boris and Co may be comfortable entertaining the rich Oligarchs coming in; it's the working class who will pick up the tab to keep the rest and live with them. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninearches Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 I think also that Ukraine's neighbouring countries are also willing to take in Ukrainians whereas they preferred to just show Syrians & Afghans the way to the UK while the European mafia made a fortune from their misery by acting as overpriced travel agents. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted March 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 Well, as hyper inflation takes over, and indigenous Brits have to choose between heating or eating, food or fuel; I'm sure they'll have peace of mind. knowing they are paying over £50 million per day to house and feed the illegal migrants that our Government seem incapable of deporting. Eventually, these migrants will supply the cheap labour to undercut working class Brits and suppress wages, whilst providing the woke liberal middle class with cleaners and nannies they want. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninearches Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 What could be more disgusting than the happenings at P&O where 800 crew members are being displaced by foreign agency staff . Are there no employment protection laws any more or is this a result of foreign ownership ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted March 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 The cruise industry has relied on cheap foreign labour throughout it's existence; but this disgusting example applies to our local ferry services. Be interesting to know how and from where they recruited their foreign labour - Calais ? ! This is merely a sign of what's to come for ordinary British workers in our brave new liberal world. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninearches Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 Apparently ,the security men who cleared the ships had handcuffs so surely if they were used there would be grounds for assault charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted March 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 Just wonder where all the HR lawyers are, or do they only cater for immigrants ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted March 19, 2022 Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 13 hours ago, Observer II said: ust wonder where all the HR lawyers are, or do they only cater for immigrants ? Don't think being sacked from a job comes under HR remit. If it did there would be a lot of HR lawyers advertising on TV along the lines of "been sacked for no good reason? Call Fleecem and Scarper employment claims specialists" 14 hours ago, ninearches said: Apparently ,the security men who cleared the ships had handcuffs so surely if they were used there would be grounds for assault charges. Once you have been "released" from a job it is standard procedure to escort you from the building or other premises to stop you doing any mischief on the way out, such as punching the Owner. if you do decide not to go quietly they can restrain you as long as they only use reasonable force as by that time you would be technically trespassing,no matter how long you had worked there. Whether you could then pursue them for an assault charge would be open to interpretation of "reasnable" force. but i am not an expert. ( on any thing )...🤫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninearches Posted March 19, 2022 Report Share Posted March 19, 2022 I have never seen anyone being escorted off site in handcuffs though unless by the police. There used to be a period of notice for redundancy & grounds were needed to just sack a person from his/her job. As far as redundancy is concerned though , the posts have shifted from their original position because it seems now that your job can still be ongoing while you have been displaced by a cheaper employee. All very shoddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted March 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 Watched another debate by our middle class liberal politicians on Patel's Nationality & Borders Bill; which has been softened by Lords ammendments; one which calls for asylum seekers to be allowed to work after 6 months, rather than the current 12. This is clearly a sign that the politicians have given up on any idea of actually physically preventing illegal entry into the UK or of removing all legal impediments to the forced deportation of those that we now feed and house at a cost of £5million per day. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted April 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 Well, Boris has now announced the new Bill to sort out illegal immigration, which will include deporting then to Rwanda in Africa. Just how long will it take the current Army of HR lawyers to take appeals to the ECHR and turn this into a total failure ? Unless the UK withdraws from the ECHR and ammends it's own HR laws, giving the HR lawyers without a leg to stand on, it will continue. So physically turning back the migrant boats at sea is the only answer. Whilst not a seaman, I would have thought that the RN or UKBF operating fast MTBs could devise tactics for scooping these inflatables in nets strung between two MTBs, and dragging them back to a French beach should work. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 I had my doubts when I first heard this suggested but thinking about it, it could completely stop the influx of economic migrants. Nobodies going to pay a people smuggler and risk their lives if they know that they’ll just get taken to queue up in Rwanda, they may as well just head there. The best thing about this is that if it works, then there’ll be no cost of transporting people there because there’ll all be stuck in France. 😊 Bill 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 On 3/18/2022 at 2:26 PM, Observer II said: Well, as hyper inflation takes over, and indigenous Brits have to choose between heating or eating, food or fuel; I'm sure they'll have peace of mind. knowing they are paying over £50 million per day to house and feed the illegal migrants that our Government seem incapable of deporting. . 😠 As I've said before it's a top idea. But I'm sure all the bleeding heart do gooders will be wringing their hands and doing their best to stop this Well say what you want it's a breath of fresh air in this poisonous subject. More chaining to gates and gluing hands to the road and more signs to paint...aint life fun! time for a few beers to celebrate🍺 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninearches Posted April 14, 2022 Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 Perhaps the weather will be better in Rwanda for the migrants too ,& also the chance of appearing in a Top Gear prog of the future. Sounds a good idea to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted April 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2022 I'll believe it when I see it; bet the HR lawyers are warming up for more vexatious legal delays already. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted April 15, 2022 Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 19 hours ago, Observer II said: I'll believe it when I see it; bet the HR lawyers are warming up for more vexatious legal delays already. 😠 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61115638 We will just have to keep our fingers crossed Obs 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted April 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 I've been wondering why this Gov hasn't got a grip on immigration, could it be that members of the cabinet are themselves immigrants, and Boris had a US passport until recently ? They are clearly not attached to UK enough to defend it, and don't have to live with or amongst the results of this invasion. These inflatables have to be turned back at sea and physically prevented from reaching our shores; and any that do, should be immediately flown back to France or their place of origin. The HR lawyers will have a field day, as long as were in the ECHR and we retain any HR laws that allow for their vexatious claims. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 15, 2022 Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 I’d have thought trying to stop them crossing that way would end up with it being a never ending and costly game of cat and mouse, whereas the threat of a guaranteed deportation should be enough to make sure they don’t even bother trying. Bill 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted April 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 The "cat & mouse" will be played out in the Courts and ECHR; if your telling me that the RN are incapable of tracking and netting these illegals, and depositing them on a French beach, then clearly these Islands are defenceless. btw. It's alleged that the "traffickers" are already working on routes from Rwanda to Calais. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 15, 2022 Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 If it were possible to intercept all the dinghies and tow them back to France, then I think we’d have done that before now. I don’t know but I suppose there’s some rule somewhere that says we can’t do that. As for the royal navy taking over this role, I don’t think it’d make a jot of difference and I reckon it’s more a political move to make it look like the government’s toughing up. Whichever way we go there’ll be legal battles to be fought and I think if the Rwanda deal can be got through then it’ll put pay to the whole situation at a stroke. Bill 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused52 Posted April 15, 2022 Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Observer II said: The "cat & mouse" will be played out in the Courts and ECHR; if your telling me that the RN are incapable of tracking and netting these illegals, and depositing them on a French beach, then clearly these Islands are defenceless. btw. It's alleged that the "traffickers" are already working on routes from Rwanda to Calais. Given Rwanda's location most of those economic migrants will have to pass through their home countries to get back to Calais from Rwanda; pass GO do not collect £200. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted April 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Bill said: If it were possible to intercept all the dinghies and tow them back to France, then I think we’d have done that before now. I don’t know but I suppose there’s some rule somewhere that says we can’t do that. As for the royal navy taking over this role, I don’t think it’d make a jot of difference and I reckon it’s more a political move to make it look like the government’s toughing up. Whichever way we go there’ll be legal battles to be fought and I think if the Rwanda deal can be got through then it’ll put pay to the whole situation at a stroke. Bill 😊 But Bill, They are intercepting most of the dinghies, transfering the occupants onto UKBF vessels and taking them to Dover; they've even got the RNLI doing it. So instead of giving them a taxi ride into the UK, just drop them off on a French beach - sorted. 19 minutes ago, Confused52 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Quote just drop them off on a French beach - sorted. Or not Aside from the fact that we can’t legally do that, what’s to stop them trying again? Bill 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninearches Posted April 16, 2022 Report Share Posted April 16, 2022 Little biddy Priti one is now suggesting that other EU countries could do the same with immigrants & send them to third party countries. I can't see that catching on when normally they just point them to the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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