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How much tax is payed is down to how creative the your accountants can get when it comes to avoiding paying it (in this country that is)

That is if you are wealthy enough to afford accountants in the first place. For the rest of us it is just pay up and shut up.

Taxes:- the government method of legally collecting money with menaces

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Well on the face of it we've finally got a Gov prepared to address the time bomb of elderly care, although the jury's still out on the question of fairness.  Just a cynical thought - with the care staff shortages,  plus shortages of fruit pickers etc;  could that be Patel's secret plan - to recruit the 12,000 illegal immigrants ?    😠

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Well we seem to have plenty of potential workers arriving everyday ,Obs. I'm sure they could be turned in valuable members of the workforce & paid the proper rate of pay & not slave labour wages.

There is a massive shortage of drivers ...many of these immigrants would be ideal to be trained for the jobs . Just give them a map, satnav & a picture of a low bridge.

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19 hours ago, ninearches said:

Well we seem to have plenty of potential workers arriving everyday ,Obs. I'm sure they could be turned in valuable members of the workforce & paid the proper rate of pay & not slave labour wages.

There is a massive shortage of drivers ...many of these immigrants would be ideal to be trained for the jobs . Just give them a map, satnav & a picture of a low bridge.

Think the point is Dave, they are not allowed to work, they've never paid taxes either;  but will consume our Health and Education systems, and anything else they can get for free - after all, that's why they come here.   😠

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Seems a Council Tax rise is due, to pay for staff NI increases plus care services;  so yet another disproportionate tac on the worse off. And it seems this is playing on voting intentions as the Tories have now dropped below Labour in the polls.   The tragedy is, moving to Labour is like jumping out the frying pan into the fire; what we need imo is populist policies, in tune with public opinion, but Boris seems to be throwing that away.    :rolleyes:

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2 hours ago, Observer II said:

Seems a Council Tax rise is due, to pay for staff NI increases plus care services;  so yet another disproportionate tac on the worse off. And it seems this is playing on voting intentions as the Tories have now dropped below Labour in the polls.   The tragedy is, moving to Labour is like jumping out the frying pan into the fire; what we need imo is populist policies, in tune with public opinion, but Boris seems to be throwing that away.    :rolleyes:

We are always due a rise in Council Tax. They have risen by the maximum permitted without a local referendum in every single year since Labour took control of the council you can rely on another four years of that.

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10 hours ago, Observer II said:

But the NI pressure will mean it could be high, staff wages are a large portion of LA budgets.  :rolleyes:

As I explained it is fixed at 4.98% unless the law on referendums changes, WBC always take the maximum so after rounding the increase stays below 5%. They do the same every year. You are assuming they increase the rate by what they need and it just is not like that. The simplified process they use is first work out what cuts that you promised that haven't been made yet then add what you estimate will be the increases in prices and costs then subtract from that the total expected income after a 4.8% increase in Council Tax; the result is the amount of cuts they will claim need to be made next year. The amount of cuts never goes to zero and also never actually get completely cut, nor do the council budgets ever identify what they are to be in enough detail to hold them to account for not making the cuts. The government may also increase the amount of the Adult Social Care Precept to offset the NI increase in contractors costs which WBC will also take in full.

 

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