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Asp I think that it’s time that we quit trying to educate the Neanderthals !   Maybe having them locked down for a few years will be a boon to mankind. Indisputable facts, Florida and Texas ( God

That's all very well Con, but how about looking at it from the point of view that if you've had the vaccine you can go to the pub you are not going to be hospitalised or die because of it. If you have

That’s true but the idea does have some merits. They said in Denmark that businesses broadly welcomed the idea as a means of getting back to normality a bit quicker and also it provided an increased i

Unfortunately, there is a large minority of Neanderthals who cannot comprehend the basic requirements for restricting the spread of this virus.  They are already predicting a return to over-crowded beaches this Summer, with no masks being worn, no social distancing and tons of rubbish left on beaches.   This of course will keep the virus in play, give rise to fresh variants, that will exceed the "R" rate by the Autumn, and require another lock down by Winter.   :rolleyes:     😷

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I rest my case.

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3 hours ago, Observer II said:

Unfortunately, there is a large minority of Neanderthals who cannot comprehend the basic requirements for restricting the spread of this virus.  They are already predicting a return to over-crowded beaches this Summer, with no masks being worn, no social distancing and tons of rubbish left on beaches.   This of course will keep the virus in play, give rise to fresh variants, that will exceed the "R" rate by the Autumn, and require another lock down by Winter.   :rolleyes:     😷

Not often I agree with you obs but i'm afraid I feel the same  😒

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That could happen if too many throw cautions to the wind and don’t follow the guidance but providing the majority remain sensible, we might be ok. I’m sure when they did all the maths to predict the effects, that they would have taken the Neanderthals into account and there’s always the option to delay relaxations if the numbers are going too far off track.

 

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22 minutes ago, Confused52 said:

Quiet isn't it?

The point I was making wasn't about why the tests are being done but rather the way that the rules are being changed from one day to another, i.e. a bloke can be fined for being on Clapham Common one day and the next he is applauded for it. A point that you and Bill both conveniently avoid addressing, but hey what do I know - I don't have the technical expertise of you guys to express an opinion apparently.

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Well Asp are you seriously saying there’s no difference between breaking the law and queuing for a test if it’s done in the same place? That’s the sort of thinking I’d expect I’d expect from an adolescent on drugs, not an educated mature person such as yourself. Some of the stuff you’re coming out with on this subject is so far off the mark that it makes reasonable  debate impossible.

 

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1 hour ago, Bill said:

Well Asp are you seriously saying there’s no difference between breaking the law and queuing for a test if it’s done in the same place? That’s the sort of thinking I’d expect I’d expect from an adolescent on drugs, not an educated mature person such as yourself. Some of the stuff you’re coming out with on this subject is so far off the mark that it makes reasonable  debate impossible.

 

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In your opinion, because it's only your opinion.

Why was the law in place if not to stop people gathering together, and supposedly stopping the spread of a virus? So why is it logical to change that law overnight? Can the virus read, or somehow divine that one day it can infect people in that place but the next day it can't? It's the same muddled thinking that says you can buy clothes in the Asda but not in a clothes shop, you can go for a walk in the park but can't stop for a rest on a park bench during that walk. It's all a nonsense and you know it. Rich pickings for the Karens and certain police forces, but not sensible.

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2 hours ago, asperity said:

The point I was making wasn't about why the tests are being done but rather the way that the rules are being changed from one day to another, i.e. a bloke can be fined for being on Clapham Common one day and the next he is applauded for it. A point that you and Bill both conveniently avoid addressing, but hey what do I know - I don't have the technical expertise of you guys to express an opinion apparently.

I just said it was quiet. There was no comment about what you said. If you want an answer it would be that the law has not changed - queueing for a coronavirus test hast been legal throughout. The rest of it  - no comment.

As we go by - you avoided the question - which was "Do you understand why they’re being asked to take a test Asp?". Just saying because you picked me up on not answering, which I did. The bit containing absurd was a comment as well as the answer.

No expertise is required to express an opinion so stop trying to stop us having an opinion you don't agree with, that is a "woke" characteristic which I thought you didn't agree with. Amazing what I get wrong eh?

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41 minutes ago, Confused52 said:

I just said it was quiet. There was no comment about what you said. If you want an answer it would be that the law has not changed - queueing for a coronavirus test hast been legal throughout. The rest of it  - no comment.

As we go by - you avoided the question - which was "Do you understand why they’re being asked to take a test Asp?". Just saying because you picked me up on not answering, which I did. The bit containing absurd was a comment as well as the answer.

No expertise is required to express an opinion so stop trying to stop us having an opinion you don't agree with, that is a "woke" characteristic which I thought you didn't agree with. Amazing what I get wrong eh?

I'm not trying to stop anyone having an opinion, but any opinion I have is seemingly wrong because my opinions don't concur with the mainstream. Figure that one out.

To answer your question, they are looking for cases of the South African variant in the area, so they think it's a good idea to get everyone out of their homes and mingle together (socially distanced of course, no neanderthals in London are there?)

The idea that queuing for a covid test is "legal" but being in the same place if you aren't queuing for a covid test is illegal obviously doesn't strike you as being slightly absurd. Well you're welcome to your opinion.

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Seems the virus is having a field day in the EU at the moment, which makes one wonder why they are even talking about holidays abroad.   😷     As for testing, I fail to see how mass testing solves anything, unless you have enforced and supervised isolation for the negatives.  The point of test and trace imo, is to identify sources in the early stages of an outbreak and also as a screening check to safeguard high risk areas.  😷

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9 hours ago, asperity said:

'm not trying to stop anyone having an opinion, but any opinion I have is seemingly wrong because my opinions don't concur with the mainstream. Figure that one out.

Think it comes under the heading of "debate" and the "premise" that the majority is "right".

Opinions are opinions and nothing more, they may be based on known fact or what some bloke told our Brian down the pub after a few beers.They maybe based total lies.

They are, however, just opinions and as such unique to each individual, even those opinions that apparently agree with your own will not be exactly the same as your individual opinion. People are different so opinions are different.

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An assessment of who was right and who was wrong, will come at the end of this pandemic, if it does end.   Town was crowded today, with mainly young folk walking around aimlessly, pub gardens chocker -  walking with Neanderthals.   😷

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So young people, who are at next to no risk from this virus, are out enjoying the fine weather. What's the problem with this? I'm honestly perplexed.

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I agree with Asp on this.😲  Given the numbers have dropped (probably better than anticipated) then it’s only right to lift the restrictions as promised to allow some outdoor socialising and drinking, especially on a day like today when the weather is so nice. It’s certainly not going to help reduce the spread of the virus but as long as it doesn’t make it any worse, then the benefits in terms of mental health and wellbeing are probably worth it.

All that said, I’ll be giving it a bit longer yet as I’ve just been past a couple of pubs and both were a bit too crowded for my liking and with the Mrs now having to isolate for a while it wouldn’t make any sense anyway.

 

Bill 😊

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I can't believe Boris is still planning to go to India for trade talks despite the situation there. He's going to have to do the hotel quarantine when he gets back even though he's already had the virus and the vaccinations, totally bonkers.

Plus given the situation with the Indian variant both here and in India, why on earth is it still not on the red list? Even more bonkers!

 

Bill :) 

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Seems par for the course now. The rules are for us plebs while the ruling classes do what they want (apart from Her Maj who is following the rules). There's a video of Hancock walking up Downing Street with his mask on in the fresh air, as soon as he gets through the door of number 10 (an enclosed space with, dare I guess, more than the statutory 6 others) he whips off the mask. It's all show with no sense or logic behind it.

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The longer I live, the more convinced am I that this planet is used by other planets as a lunatic asylum.

G.B.Shaw

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