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Quite surprised nobody has commented on what happened in the USA last night. I was just about to go to bed when it all started but ended staying up a lot later watching the events unfold. To be honest though, it could have been a whole lot worse given the number of firearms they have so only one person getting shot with something like this shows a lot of restraint. I was worried that there might have been something like this happening with the military which would have been a lot more serious but there’s still time yet.

Makes you wonder if something like this would ever have happened without social media.

 

Bill 😊

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Orange Man Bad allegedly 🙄.

The woman who was killed was shot by a security man who fired blindly through a closed door with windows. There are no plans by Trump supporters to go on a week long orgy of theft and destruction to express their anger.

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The Chinese, Russians and Iranians are loving it that Biden is the next President and they will get back what Trump took away from them.

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He should be in court for inciting the riot. I don’t know if anyone else here heard what he said on live TV because it all happened fairly late here, but it quickly got chopped and only a very brief edited version was replayed after that. No doubt the full version will be used if it does ever end up in court. I saw and heard it all and I’m in no doubt he’s as guilty as sin.

 

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It looked to be quite peaceful as riots go Bill, especially compared with the riot actually occurring in Portland Oregon at the same time. But of course as that was ANTIFA it would be classed as "largely peaceful" with very few buildings set on fire and shops looted 🙄.

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9:30am Wednesday our COVID vaccination shots, thank you President Trump, one year instead of twelve.  
 

Y’all are in for a bad time.  The US is now a non player, who’s going to save the world from China and Russia now?  The criminal idiots are in total control, there will never be another authentic US election.  With control of all of Congress and the White House, laws will be changed and illegals will be bussed to polling stations and every ‘election’ will be a ‘Democratic’ landslide.

It is the end of America as the world has been privileged to know it, completely amoral, disgusting people are now in control and the end is nigh for everyone.

I give up on you Bill, you seem like a nice guy, but your wimpish kow tow attitude is how bad things happen.  For your information, the first guys arrested in the riots were Antifa, the riot arm of the Democratic Party and Trump was the first to decry the attack.

The Democrats have proved over the last four years that they are lying sonaofabitches and now we have them forever!

 

 

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Sadly I think you're correct Stall. I can't understand the TDS that has taken over the media and people in this country. Okay Trump isn't everyone's cup of tea but the amount of hate and lies thrown in his direction over the last five years is beyond belief, ignoring all the positive things he has managed to achieve against the odds. Meanwhile somehow people have managed to ignore all the faults of Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, the Democrats and the Clinton Crime Family. Good luck Stall, you may need it.

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Thankyou Asp.  I’ve seen and lived the best and now I will see the worst.  America’s brashness and can do culture has been a beacon in most peoples lives, especially in WW11 and now that is about to become Venezuela. One bright spec, apparently, amazingly, there are some Democrats with brains.  It is reported that a good majority of Democratic Senators will vote with Republicans on most of the controversial proposals, so maybe there is hope yet for humanity.

When considering all aspects of this situation, remember that Joe Biden, the next US President, instructed his son to “ Make sure you cut me in for 10% of your next China bribe “.

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We all form our own opinions and for the most part in a free society we can express them openly. I do not take political sides, but I do believe that there needs to be limits or lines that should never be crossed, and in my opinion, Mt Trump did just that.

I’m old enough and wise enough to recognise how both mainstream and social media can manipulate peoples opinion thank you very much Stalard.

 

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The problem with all this is, that US and UK societies are now polarised, they shout at each other but don't listen, and most politicians have been pulled towards the extremes, hence they condemn one extreme but not the other.   Couple this with a close electoral split and the faith in democracy becomes doubtful to the point were violence becomes the only recourse, and the majority will begin to yearn for an authoritarian Leader to enforce social cohesion.     💀

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In the USA there isn't a hair's breadth between the Democrats and Republicans, the latter being quite happy to let the former sell the country to China and allow the likes of Iran and North Korea to do what they like so long as they get their cut. This is why they have been so keen to get rid of Trump and his America First policies - they haven't been getting their cut.

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30 minutes ago, Observer II said:

The problem with all this is, that US and UK societies are now polarised, they shout at each other but don't listen, and most politicians have been pulled towards the extremes, hence they condemn one extreme but not the other.   Couple this with a close electoral split and the faith in democracy becomes doubtful to the point were violence becomes the only recourse, and the majority will begin to yearn for an authoritarian Leader to enforce social cohesion.     💀

Yes there is polarisation but the real policies are not that far apart. The media always tries to highlight differences even if they are small. Arguments make the news and the unwillingness to accept the results of elections in the form of the traditional losers consent is the problem. Brexit has shown this detail. Look at the Independent headlines, read the tone of BBC reports they will never stop supporting being in the EU, According to the Huffington Post, H/T Guido Fawkes[Rosie Duffield Admits Majority of Labour MPs "Desperate to Rejoin" the EU "at Heart" - Guido Fawkes (order-order.com)] Rosie Duffield MP (Labour) :

Speaking to the Huffington Post’s Commons People podcast the Canterbury MP went onto say “most people on the [Labour] frontbench who voted for this deal last week did so with a very heavy heart and they haven’t given up either”, setting out the newly formed ‘rejoiners’ tactical plan:

“We will try and shift the leadership, as and when it needs to shift towards rejoining I would imagine.

“Possibly we might even have a different sort of set up, a different leader by then, who knows.

This unwillingness to accept the result of an election can be seen in the morons like for whom every story is an anti-government rant on News sites and Blogs and the public statements of local Councils. 

They don't seem to listen because they get coverage if that is how they act and ignored if they are sensible. The public continue to accept this behaviour from the MSM and some sections of the local press (and no I don't include Gary) and until it stops the fractures will continue to apparently grow. It is called false balance by some.

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I don't defer from that Con;   there are clearly deep divides in our society, between young and old, an educated elite and the plebs; between the woke fanatics and ordinary folk, between urban cities and the rest.   As you point out, the failure of champagne socialists to accept the democratic will of the majority through a referendum and a following general election, is evidence of the undermining of democracy by the influential minority.    :unsure:

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Well, it's looking like the US electorate has been played by the media elite - Biden's son's antics in the Ukraine are looking like a good reason to impeach him.  Problem is, the media has managed to suppress the story, thus getting Biden through to the White House.   If it all comes out later,  a Dem majority in Congress will ensure nothing comes of it.     :rolleyes:💀

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The US media has been covering the backs of the Dems for years. They have spent the last 5 years demonising Trump and cheering on all the efforts to unseat him from the presidency. Apple, Google and Amazon are busy shutting down any and all dissenting voices on their social media platforms just leaving the left to talk to itself on them. It looks probable that Biden will be removed from the presidency in short order due to his "failing mental health", leaving Harris to be manipulated (womanipulated?) by the people pulling the levers.

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For those of you keeping score at home: Differences between “riots” and “peaceful demonstrations”.

Riots don’t have:
-Looting
-Arson
-Laser and firework attacks on police
-Streets barricaded with burning skips
-Passing cars attacked and drivers shot
-Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
-Molotov cocktails
-Main roads blocked

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Perhaps they'll make a film about it, and entitle it "the revenge of the swamp people".    Just confirms an historical truth, that elites, with access to all the levers, are difficult to displace.   😠     

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