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4 hours ago, Confused52 said:

Where is this poll?

Yahoo news page.    😷

 

4 hours ago, Davy51 said:

I must say all this talk of the contact breaker lockdown is nonsensical considering we had a 3 month lock down that obviously did nothing to beat the virus . It just delayed the inevitable. If this virus is similar to the common cold then we may all have to get used to receiving several versions of the virus every year. I'm sure we have all experienced more than one cold per annum.

Well it did actually Dave, it brought the infection rate down below 1, which radically reduced the number of cases and consequent deaths.   This so-called second wave is a direct consequence of releasing the brake.   😷

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5 hours ago, Confused52 said:

Where is this poll?

Yahoo news page.    😷

 

4 hours ago, Davy51 said:

I must say all this talk of the contact breaker lockdown is nonsensical considering we had a 3 month lock down that obviously did nothing to beat the virus . It just delayed the inevitable. If this virus is similar to the common cold then we may all have to get used to receiving several versions of the virus every year. I'm sure we have all experienced more than one cold per annum.

Well it did actually Dave, it brought the infection rate down below 1, which radically reduced the number of cases and consequent deaths.   This so-called second wave is a direct consequence of releasing the brake.   😷

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4 hours ago, Confused52 said:

Burnham is not a city Mayor though. He is the Mayor of the Greater Manchester Combined Authority. When it comes to authority he is a bit short, the function of "Helping protect people from the dangers of communicable diseases and environmental threats." falls to the Metropolitan Borough councils of Greater Manchester such as Manchester City Council, which does have a Lord Mayor ( Councillor Abid Latif Chohan) and is not Andy Burnham. The Covid case counts are all against the upper tier local authority who have the relevant responsibility and the Combined Authority isn't one of those. Burnham needs to butt out - it isn't his job - he is just acting as a political ringleader and trouble maker.

 

All part of the dog's breakfast devolution foisted on England;  we need a complete constitutional and organisational model for our governance imo, alas, too many establishment politicians have an interest in keeping things as they are.     😠

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Exactly my point Obs. It only slowed the rate of infection down without taking away any of the potency of the virus. Would we need to be in a perpetual lockdown to regulate the infection rate ? Would we need to sacrifice the economy to regulate the infection rate ? Do we go for broke & take a chance on herd immunity by opening up the economy whilst allowing the vulnerable to be shielded ? Is this second wave just the start of an ongoing repetitive wave ,just like the common cold which will have to be dealt with in perpetuity ?

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The theory expounded more or less at the beginning, was to shield "at risk" groups (IE total lock down);  whilst allowing younger folk, by cohorts, back into play.  This could have been done with an up and running track and trace system in place, but would still have meant some restrictions on hot spots, such as enclosed public spaces.  This would have allowed a degree of herd infection.  However, as no immunity as yet been proven, and re-infections have occured, plus lasting effects in the so-called "long covid" cases; all we do know is that opening up, like the return to Universities, immediately results in a dramatic increase in cases, which puts pressure on the NHS and undermines their treatment of other patients.   The cold virus generally doesn't prove fatal; Covid19 does in some cases, which are now less, precisely because the grumpies are in hibernation, and it seems will have to remain so till next Summer at least.     😷

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