Observer II Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 For anyone who even considers standing for public office, it seems apparent that anything and everything you've done and said, going back decades, will be scrutinised by the PC Offenderatti . The latest is a Labour Party Member, singing on a coach returning from a gig, allegedly sang "Hey Jews" rather than "hey Jude" (the Beatles song), over ten years ago. New words are appearing in the PC lexicon, like "mansplaining" and "whitesplaining", all designed to label folk in this new world of identity politics. So I guess it's no wonder we can't get politicians with gravitas these days, and have to put up with clueless PC dregs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused52 Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 when the media didn't have too much time/space to fill we were spared this dross. We need to get back to simpler times, perhaps put the potter's wheel and other interlude films on News24 most of the day. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 Are you allowed to use the term MANSplaining these days, is that not un-PC? Same could be said of WHITESplaining as well.Very un-PC. Surprised the PC brigade have not started on the towns and cities, Blackpool, Whitehaven, Manchester not to mention Cockington.(a very picturesque village in Torquay). I mean who comes up with these terms. Do they think of a daft word and then say i know what we can use that for. Or do they just randomly pull out a letter from a scabble set until they have some thing that sounds ridiculous and then think of a daft definition. Getting that way that you will soon need something like google translate just to understand the terminology used in the average news report about a local flower show.🥴 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallard12 Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 Who are these people? Why are they allowed to flourish? How come there's no movement against them by the intelligent people? Is there a law that only stupid people are allowed a voice? Just askin'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milky Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Evil Sid said: Are you allowed to use the term MANSplaining these days, is that not un-PC? Same could be said of WHITESplaining as well.Very un-PC. Surprised the PC brigade have not started on the towns and cities, Blackpool, Whitehaven, Manchester not to mention Cockington.(a very picturesque village in Torquay). I mean who comes up with these terms. Do they think of a daft word and then say i know what we can use that for. Or do they just randomly pull out a letter from a scabble set until they have some thing that sounds ridiculous and then think of a daft definition. Getting that way that you will soon need something like google translate just to understand the terminology used in the average news report about a local flower show.🥴 Sign Change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 They are the people who will spend hours trawling the internet and news services looking for something to be offended by and then kicking up a stink about it. "I am offended by the fact that i have spent all day looking and not found anything to be offended about" Keeps them off the street i suppose.🤭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 Such is life these days where you can be held accountable for any minor slip of the tongue or minor indiscretion in your past. Fortunately, it only affects those in higher office or with money so I don’t know about you guy’s but that makes me feel pretty safe in that respect. I don’t know what others think but when it comes to our politicians I’d feel a bit more comfortable with a real person that’s experienced the trials and tribulations of life rather than someone who’s that squeaky clean that they could have groomed for the job. For me, too many of our politicians don’t live in the real world and insist on surrounding themselves with their close-knit supporters which in turn isolates them from reality. And it’s all these “party faithful friends” that are obsessive ones and they’re all too ready to try and dig the dirt and turn it into something it isn’t. I think people who insist on using the likes of Facebook to criticise one party or another or spread the muck, run the risk of losing a lot of their so called friends. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted November 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 In the days of Kier Hardy, we had miners in cloth caps elected to Parliament, people with the same experiences as the folk they represented; then we had the son's of miners, fresh out of University full of theories and bent on climbing the slippery slope. Now we have the snowflake products of our Universities, fully PC programmed, getting a research assistant job with an MP, while seeking to be parachuted into a working class seat under the Labour banner, with voters they cannot relate to. Thus we have the the ivory tower of Parliament V the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallard12 Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 There's the answer to the questions I posed - Universities ! I'm a Philistine, so my answer would be to close all colleges except Engineering, Science, Business and Medical. Take Hollywood with them too. From experience, if you want to graduate with an engineering degree, you have no time for bullshit. ( it's not that bad Gary !). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milky Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Observer II said: In the days of Kier Hardy, we had miners in cloth caps elected to Parliament, people with the same experiences as the folk they represented; then we had the son's of miners, fresh out of University full of theories and bent on climbing the slippery slope. Now we have the snowflake products of our Universities, fully PC programmed, getting a research assistant job with an MP, while seeking to be parachuted into a working class seat under the Labour banner, with voters they cannot relate to. Thus we have the the ivory tower of Parliament V the people. You have to remember that is the public that votes for the MPs that sit in parliament! People tend to vote for the party rather then the candidate and in areas like Warrington North you can put a Labour nomination on an ass and it would be voted in - not that I am suggesting the labour north MP is a donkey, don't want to be accused of hate speech towards MPs. There is little point in standing as an independent in the UK as people won't vote for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milky Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Women do not get as much scrutiny as men and there many people willing to vote for a party ran by couple of guys who support terrorists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Indeed Milky; in the early days of the Labour Party, they would indeed be voted in on the basis they were Labour, but they also were an integral part of the class they represented, just like the Tories. Fast forward, and this was lost, when a new middle class elite, basically Islington champagne Socialists; distorted the fundemental objectives of it's origins; giving way to professional career MPs, bent on climbing the greasy pole, and using their electorate as voting fodder, that they probably regarded as uneducated plebs. Rather than sorting out the fundemental issues of the Nation, we now have PC identity politics, piling trivia upon trivia, with the only attempt at rational debate descending into "isms" Alas, the voting public appears to be now catching on, and catching up - let's hope so anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Perhaps a prerequisite for becoming a politician would be to spend three years working in a corner shop for basic pay and dealing with the customers etc. and living in "affordable" housing locally with no financial help. (or something similar). It may just give them an idea what working class means before they start spouting on about what the people really want. (which is usually that the bins get emptied and that they can afford to put food on the table and live in a sort of comfort, anything else being considered a luxury) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milky Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 But your repeating yourself OB2, the MPs that are currently serving were chosen by the public I think the problem with our MPs is not that they haven't worked in corner shops but because the majority seem to be lawyers or economists , thPs these problem is that they have not ran a business or anything else. Also most MPs these days are lead by pressure groups of minorities, the gay lobby, the feminists, the environments and they listen to these groups more because they shout the loudest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Nope Milky, the weren't "chosen" by the public, they were chosen by their political party - which allows such things as women only shortlists and the parachuting of none local candidates into constituencies. This ensures that the PC London elite provide the candidates with a red rosette for the uneducated Plebs to vote for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milky Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Do you not have a vote on Dec 12 this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted November 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 Of course Milky, but my choice is between Parties NOT individuals, as it's the least worst policy options that get voted for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milky Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 If you choose to vote for someone because they stand for a particular party that is your choice. You will be aware of a number of MPs who switched parties recently yet remind MPs for the area that is because you vote for the person not the party. You can stand as an MP too providing you are not a Archbishop, Judge, police officer, haven't had a prison sentence of over 12 months, there are a few other criteria to meet and you have to pay£500 deposit. I think you have two weeks left to register! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted November 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 ... AND haven't said anything on social media that isn't considered PC ! 😆 It's most people's choice to vote for a Party (donkey in a red rosette etc), probably don't know who the candidate is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 I say ,are there any plans for an MP's Brexit tendencies to be shown on ballot papers or where can such info be found ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused52 Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 Brexit behaviour will not be on the ballot papers. You can check how any former MP voted on any of the motions including Brexit Votes in the House of Commons here: https://commonsvotes.digiminster.com/ It is the official vote data from the House of Commons used by the broadcasters and the parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted November 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 It's frankly unbelievable that some of the Tories standing again are Remoaners, thought Boris would have cleaned them all out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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