asperity Posted September 14, 2019 Report Share Posted September 14, 2019 Having been thrashed by Leeds in the last game Wire finished in 4th place, a large drop from the nailed on 2nd just a few weeks ago. This means a home tie against Castleford next Thursday and, if they should win that, a semi final game against the loser of the qualifier between Wigan and Salford. The winner of the Wigan - Salford match play St Helens and the winner of that game go through to the final, the loser of that game playing the winner of the semi final. The winner of that game goes through to the final at Old Trafford which Warrington win handsomely. Clear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 so your saying that st helens will be in the final the winner of the wigan v salford match will play st helens. if st helens win that match they go through to the final. if they lose they play whoever wins the semi final. if they win that match they are in the final. so st helens have two chances of making the final compared to one chance for the other teams......🤔 i get it it's a fix to get st helens in the final. Cleared that up then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted September 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 It's really a fix to try and get the team that won the league into the Grand Final, which is fair enough really. I mean they could have said the league winners go into the Grand Final without having to play any other games and the next 4 teams have to fight it out to get there. At the end of the day it's a money making scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted September 15, 2019 Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 What nobody told me last year when I bought my season ticket was that none of the play off games were included.(The previous few seasons Super 8 format games were always included) So I'm expected to pay for my own seat ! Sorry , but on principle I will watch it on sky and save around £60... ticket price/transport/refreshments. I know I'm not the only person who is of the same mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted September 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2019 I was disappointed to find that too Latch, but I've forked out the £12 anyway. You never know we might beat Cas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 I have a feeling that having to pay will have the same effect it does on Challenge Cup games and a lot of empty seats on tv . Not good publicity for the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted September 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Being a Thursday night game doesn't help the numbers either Latch. They could have scheduled both matches for Saturday but Sky don't want to clash with their Premier League coverage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Any competition which makes the competition format so complex and keeps changing them will never fill stadiums on a regular basis. As someone who has been watching the club since I was 11-years-years old and didn't miss a game home or away for 10 years, took my future wife on our first date to a rugby game and also sposnored Wolfie - to now someone who hasn't even been a live game this season, pretty much sums up the state of the game. Always so much potential, some fantastic games but a sport run by a bunch of clowns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 Brewery run couldn't .............. seems pretty fitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted September 16, 2019 Report Share Posted September 16, 2019 The formula for the play offs is more complicated than a 3 2 1 clue . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 It's not rocket science, that is much easier to understand. basically St helens end up in the final, even if it means them playing themselves a some point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirewire Posted September 17, 2019 Report Share Posted September 17, 2019 Can't understand why we don't just follow the rugby union format - so much simpler. 1st -ve- 4th 2nd -ve- 3rd Winners meet in the final. As said above - this is all about money rather than for the fans or fairness.... I also won't be going on Thursday - I'll go to the pub and watch it on Sky... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 even simpler. 1st in league automatically goes to Old Trafford. 2nd v 3rd play home and away matches to qualify for the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted September 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 Not enough revenue in that Latch 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted September 18, 2019 Report Share Posted September 18, 2019 Very true, and so it would never happen. But it was a nice thought for a fleeting moment 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted September 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2019 A disappointing quick end to the play-offs for Wire, going down to a 14-12 defeat to Castleford at the HJ. It could have been different had MoM Stefan Ratchford planted 2 penalty attempts (the first one looked good but the touch judges ruled that it wasn't). Their game plan wasn't helped by blake Austin going off at half-time with a leg injury and not being able to return. Next season though, that will be our year!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirewire Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Very disappointing end to the season, but let's keep things in perspective. If someone had offered us at the start of the season that we'd handsomely beat St Helens to lift the Challenge Cup at Wemble but fall out fo the play-offs at the first hurdle, I'd have certainly taken that and I think the majority of other clubs fans would ahve done so also. Onwards and upwards and I'll be renewing my season ticket as soon as they come on sale! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted September 20, 2019 Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 Yes I remember many seasons when winning the cup alone would have been a magnificent achievement. But these days skys Grand Final seems to have taken precedence. Although last nights turnout of 5,500 was very poor, as I said in a previous post that wasn't a big surprise with it being on tv and all persons having to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted September 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2019 It was a poor turnout and, to give them their credit, the Cas fans were making the most noise at times. To be honest, the form Wire are in I doubt we would have been able to get past Salford/Wigan even if we had won last night. I too will be renewing my season ticket as soon as they come on sale. 2020 here we come! There will be quite a few changes to the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 Took a newbie to his first game - he was not impressed other than in the last five minutes when Warrington actually woke up! To get a crowd of 5,500 in a town with a population of circa 200K is very, very poor. Having said that four tickets in the VEEp cost me £140 so I won't be making a habit of it! The fact they couldn't even open Martin Dawes Stand hospitality on the back of a Wembley win speaks volumes! Where was the book your meal deal and have your picture taken with the Cup and Club legend Bennie Westwood package? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted September 24, 2019 Report Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Gary said: Took a newbie to his first game - he was not impressed other than in the last five minutes when Warrington actually woke up! To get a crowd of 5,500 in a town with a population of circa 200K is very, very poor. Having said that four tickets in the VEEp cost me £140 so I won't be making a habit of it! The fact they couldn't even open Martin Dawes Stand hospitality on the back of a Wembley win speaks volumes! Where was the book your meal deal and have your picture taken with the Cup and Club legend Bennie Westwood package? Toronto draw crowd of 9,325, Warrington draw crowd of 5,625 This isn't a pop at my beloved Wire Wigan v Salford was also lower than Toronto. Toronto had included play off games with the season ticket so may that had a lot to do with it.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 I know some Warrington fans who refused to go because they expected it to be included in season ticket price like Super 8s - apparently the club is doing research now on why people didn't attend! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted September 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 The St Helens v Wigan game last night drew over 14,000 but that was practically a derby game on a Friday night compared to our game being on Thursday night against Castleford who didn't bring many fans. The Wigan Salford game last week was only attended by just over 9000 on the Friday. It's true that our game was very poorly attended and many of the season ticket holders who sit near me were absent so the club needs to look into that, with maybe discussing with the RFL and Sky why they insist on Thursday night games when Saturday afternoon would be more suitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wirewire Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 I've had a note from the club asking me for my views on why I didn't attend and I've completed the questionaire, so give them their due, they are at least trying to find out why the attendance was so low and what they can do about it in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latchford Locks Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 I got mine which I have completed and returned so yes at least they are doing something , but no wonder! They could reasonably have expected 10,000 for a post Wembley play off match, Talking off play off games; Last nights Toulouse v Featherstone was a weekend game on a warm sunny day so a very poor turn out from our French supporters. And to play the final 6 days later on another continent defies belief !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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