Observer II Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Seems the LP are settling on some form of maintainance of a customs union and single market with the EU, which by any stretch will cost us a fortune and in effect, means we won't have left the EU, except for no longer having any political say in Brussels. Meanwhile, the Remoaners give out a steady drip of doom and gloom, as if the second largest contributor to the EU, is some kind of dependent basket case; when the reality is that the EU is now beginning to fall apart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 As Norman Smith said on BBC , "you can check out any time you like ,but you can never leave ". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 It's the "Hotel California" option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted June 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 Seems not just Labour selling out, but the Patrician attitude of the civil service chiefs, half the cabinet and a majority in Parliament; suggests a Remoaner conspiracy rather than total incompetance, to keep the UK in the EU. How dare the Plebs believe their vote counts for something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 I honestly don't think we should be surprised if Britain stays in the EU. There are powerful forces at work that couldn't care less about a democratic referendum result. As they say, " A week is a long time in politics". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted June 8, 2018 Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 The way things are going in the EU the whole edifice could fall apart before we get the chance to Brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted June 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2018 Here's hoping. The Issue however, is that we have a political elite, who assume they know what's best for us, and thus ignore our vote; when such an arrogant contempt is the reason that the referendum vote went the way it did. The same thing is happening throughout Europe, where the established parties are being replaced by "populist" parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted July 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 Well, it's looking like the referendum vote is to be ignored and some form of compromise or sell out substituted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted July 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Seems Barnier, is already saying NO to May's soft option, as any form of linkage will require the inclusion of the four freedoms. So, the clock is still ticking, and if time runs out, it presumably leaves us with no deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 I wonder if the plan is for the Europeans to laugh the deal into obscurity then we can walk away & plan to use WTO rules while leaving the rejection ball in the EU court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted July 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Think, they think, if they play hard ball right up to the last minute, our majority of Remain politicians will crack up and beg to stay in the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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