observer Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 Yet another headless chicken scenario: - all these people are doing, is what advertising consultants have been doing for years; farming data on potential customers then targeting the sales pitch to suit their preferred likes and dislikes. At the end of the day, there doesn't appear to be any evidence of anyone entering the ballot box, behind a voter and forcing them to vote for any particular candidate. What, if anything, the establishment are saying to the public, is that you are too thick to adopt your own opinion (which could be true in some cases), and are vunerable to such antics. But at the end of the day, as with any corporate advertising, no one forces you to buy the product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 Nothing to worry about here then. Righto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Are these the people that detect what an individual's preferred searches are then suggest products or comparable websites ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 quite likely davy. And probably responsible for those phone calls where they will spend ten minutes trying to persuade you to do a one minute survey on your lifestyle and shopping habits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Sid, I've found the best way to deal with those calls (short of hanging up) is to refuse to confirm my name and address. They can't and don't proceed any further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 And to prove there is nothing new under the sun a Grauniad article from 2012: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/feb/17/obama-digital-data-machine-facebook-election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 In essence, this is just a refined and high tech voter identification system, employed by politicians since politics originated - in order to "play to the crowd" you need to know what "the crowd" want. The problem is, that usually, having discovered what the majority want, promising it to get elected, the politicians conveniently abandon those policies and do their own thing, as they arrogantly assume they know what's best for us. Perhaps in the future, the whole thing could be computerised, thus cutting out the middle men (the politicians) - but alas turkeys don't vote for Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Perhaps Putin used the system to make sure the polling station cronies stuffed the boxes with the right number of suitable votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 Think you may find he's actually more popular (with the Russians) than any Western politician (with their electorate), at the moment - but alas the Prols can be fickle ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 On 3/21/2018 at 3:05 PM, observer said: In essence, this is just a refined and high tech voter identification system, employed by politicians since politics originated - in order to "play to the crowd" you need to know what "the crowd" want. The problem is, that usually, having discovered what the majority want, promising it to get elected, the politicians conveniently abandon those policies and do their own thing, as they arrogantly assume they know what's best for us. Perhaps in the future, the whole thing could be computerised, thus cutting out the middle men (the politicians) - but alas turkeys don't vote for Christmas. It's sounding like this CH4 led hysteria, is looking like just that - hysteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 Has had some effect though as i now keep getting letters and texts from places to explain what their policy is regarding the sharing of any data they have on me. what it basically boils down to is that they won't share if i don't want them to. trouble is any data about me has already been shared hence the ppi/accident claims/ isa claims/bank charge claims/pension review and market survey calls that are a constant blight in our society. getting to the point that i will soon be answering the phone and when asked if i am who i am will be replying "no i died last week" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused52 Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Your point about data being already shared is well made. The reason for all the letters, texts and emails about data privacy policy is the coming into force on 25th May of the EU General Data Protection Regulation. It will be carried over after Brexit. Unfortunately it is nothing to do with Cambridge Analytica! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 It all boils down to "privacy"; in the old days there was a saying " don't air your dirty washing in public", which sounds sensible. However, we live in an age where sense has been lost, leaving air heads to put everything out there on facebook. In the supposed environment of data protection, any retailer can ask for your postcode, and immediately get your name and address on screen, so how did they get it ? What surprises me is, if the world of commerce is so efficient at obtaining your data, and possibly sharing it; why does HMG seem to have a problem with data storage ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused52 Posted May 3, 2018 Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 Which HMG data storage problem did you have in mind? You should consider that DWP has data that goes back to computerised data from card held NI stamp records and can calculate your pension all the way back to graduated pensions and how many stamps you were credited in every year since you were 16. But that is because they knew they needed to do that. They even have algorithms which were taken into account in setting contribution rates in past times . Windrush records were on paper could have been scanned but would not have been possible to OCR the hand-written records. They couldn't see the point so they got lost. Government has a clear policy on destroying data that is not needed any more, what they really need is a better crystal ball, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2018 It would appear that, that a crystal ball is required to spot that ubiquitous computer glitch ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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