observer Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 Seems Nicola has risen way above her pay grade again; suggesting that Scotland can remain in the single market, after Brexit. Scotland is still part of the UK, reinforced by their recent referendum; and thus, if the UK exits the single market, that will include Scotland. The SNP are desperately trying to deceive the Scots into believing they can get somekind of special deal out of the EU. Well that fails on several fronts 1) The Spanish will veto any separate recognition of a Region, because of their issue with Catalonia, so the EU won't wear it. And 2) as part of the UK they will have to accept a EU - UK deal. So then comes the threat of another Independence referendum: well 1) this has to be agreed by a UK PM, and 2) as the PM has said; if Scotland did become independent after we leave the EU, they would no longer be in the EU or the single market in any event; but would also lose their single market with the rest of the UK, which is worth four times as much to Scotland. So perhaps Nicola should stick to addressing Scottish issues, like the modern version of the clearances, where tenant farmers are being forced out of their holdings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 Perhaps she is hoping that keeping a foot in the door of the EU with all its migrants will supply her with enough neo Scottish Nationalists to win a "leave " result in any 2nd Scottish referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 I think any Scottish referendum requires the agreement of the UK Government, so basically a non-starter for Nicola. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 How the Scots are being played by this woman is beyond me. Mind you, some did support an Italian with a French accent, as opposed to a German, for King.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 The likes of Mizz Surgeon,Salmond & Farron have tried all along since the referendum to elevate themselves above their sub species political grade. I am sure if the scenario of the SNP was transferred to England in favour of the BNP being in power there would be all sorts of cries of racism & foul play from Holyrood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 It merely proves that the SNP are a one trick pony; incapable of running efficient public services in Scotland due to their obsession with independence at any cost. First they thought they'd be swimming in oil revenues, then they'd link in a union with Iceland and Norway; now they labour under the illusion that they can somehow stay in the EU. The fact is, they would have to join the queue and would have to accept all the requirements, including the Euro; assuming of course their economic status was acceptable - which it isn't. So Nicola is basically living in a fantasy world and dragging those who are blind to reality with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 On the bright side, with an independant scotland we can get rid of about fifty percent of the politicians now in parliament, thus saving on their wages, expenses and second home costs. we would not need HS2 to go as far so would save a few bob there as well. finally think of the boost to the building trade when we rebuild hadrian's wall across the whole of the border. personally can't see a downside. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused52 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 How about the Government do this the opposite way this time? The basis of UK negotiations could be the Scots are on their way out. Set out the terms; Scotland pays for relocation of the nuclear deterrent into England. There will we no funding of Cross Border transport links other than by Scotland. There will be a tariff on Scottish goods equal to that applied to EU goods. The Bank of England will no longer be the lender of last resort to Scottish Institutions (so no keeping the pound), Oil revenues divided on population basis, Scotland will be liable to pay its own debts, etc etc. Oh and there will be no return to the Union without a referendum of the rest of the UK population with a two thirds majority required. That little lot would change the remain campaign from Project Fear to Project Promise. After that get Scottish parties only to campaign in the second referendum itself in Scotland. What do you think the result would be under those circumstances? I suspect that is why Sturgeon wants to set the terms of a referendum in Scotland. What I suggest would be much more effective than a campaign by British political parties and the lack of effectiveness of a joint campaign would no longer matter. The perceived unfairness of refusing a second independence referendum would be completely avoided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 Or perhaps have a referendum to decide whether they want a referendum in the first place ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 This woman is power tripping in the hope of turning her job as glorified county council mouthpiece into the leader of a European sub state. Her disdain for the UK is shamefully obsessive & an insult to popular democracy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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