observer Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 As advocates for "less" Government, the Tories have never really supported the principle of devolution, and their, back of an envelope, attempts at English devolution owe more to political expediency than to any form of parity or uniformity with Scottish/Welsh devolution; so no grand plan, just the piecemeal creation of a dog's breakfast. The "City Regions" existed before, as Metropolitan County Councils, along side Rural County Councils; but because the former tended to deliver Labour majorities, they were terminated by Thatcher. Sadly, any attempt to reorganize and restructure our constitutional and political system is probably doomed to distortion by politicians, as they have the most to lose or gain. Believe we have more politicians per capita than most other democracies, so the risk of political involvement in a plan, would be an increases in the numbers of politicians rather than streamlining reductions. What is clear, is that large swathes of England feel alienated by the Westminister bubble, and the concentration of national resources in London and the S/East; so if fairness is to be attained, some form of Federal system with central funding being dispersed on the basis of filling the emptiest cups, a la Barnett Formula; will be required. Such a rational approach to reformation of an antiquated constitution may be viewed as revolutionary to those with a direct personal interest IE the political class, as turkeys don't vote for Xmas; but as we can see from other Federal Democracies, such an approach is clearly viable and modern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 the political class, as turkeys don't vote for Xmas; Cough cough Farage cough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 He's jacked, so can't really be seen as a careerist then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 but he has no integrity so will probably be back in a week or so. Has he chucked in his MEP cash cow career? Course he hasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Well he'll have to when we Brexit won't he; we won't have MEPs - doh? But I hope your right - "he'll be back" - when the political elite start to water down our exit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Let us wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 All your pin ups are falling by the wayside Observer, is this what they meant by leave? I can see your padded walls, bits of Sellotape still there marking the place where the posters of Boris and NF have been ripped down and chucked on the pile of former Heroes, including Griffin, Powell and Savile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 Your becoming deranged now - take your tablets and have a lie down ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 I presume your advice is coming from experience lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 You wish ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 No I don't , your kind slither beneath my can I be arsed detector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 doh ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 doh ! Ah a Simpsons reference, are you down with the kids ???????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 5, 2016 Report Share Posted July 5, 2016 doh ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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