Gary Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Check out these top 10 for and against points from local blogger Dan Warren http://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/2016/06/10/europe-10-reasons-for-remaining-and-10-for-leaving/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 I hope Dan Warren doesn't mind an onslaught of swivel eyed loons attacking him, it won't take 'em long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 The Eu is happy to encourage foreign labour to undermine existing pay structures & the EU is also happy to tolerate zero hours contracts. Little wonder there has be peace in Europe for 70 years when the main troublemaker has been offered Euro dominance on a plate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Quick look at the ten pro-EU arguments; I think they can all be rebutted quite easily, as some have already on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 As can the anti EU ones, thats all that happens, one side says one thing the other dismisses it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Well haven't you been trying for months on these topics, but haven't come up with any solid argument; by which I mean facts that have or are occurring with the EU, not the speculation that has flourished on both sides to date. Still waiting for you to rebut the points I made in my "for the record post" (bold type) - Undemocratic: Corrupt: Wastefull & Incompetant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Well haven't you been trying for months on these topics, but haven't come up with any solid argument; by which I mean facts that have or are occurring with the EU, not the speculation that has flourished on both sides to date. Still waiting for you to rebut the points I made in my "for the record post" (bold type) - Undemocratic: Corrupt: Wastefull & Incompetant. I thought you said there could be no factual arguments regarding the referendum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 I note with interest that whenever these kind of "10 facts about the EU" type things come up, the business backers of the leave side never seems to include the Boss of JCB, and that Dyson bloke who makes vacuum cleaners.... I thought some may find this an interesting observation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 PJ - Just shows how you don't read or just ignore other's posts: I've continually made the point that the only known facts about the EU, are those that have or are happening, anything referring to the future can only be speculation. Now perhaps you can respond to my factual criticisms about what the EU has done and is doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 like clean beaches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Errm, what about "clean beaches", you mean we have to be in the EU to get our beaches cleaned up - wondered where all that unskilled migrant labour was going ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Seems so. We would also still be allowing all sorts of filthy chemicals, pesticides, herbicides etc to be pumped all over our food if it wasn't for EU regulations. The power of the lobbyists in this country means all governments find themselves be holding to the huge companies who essentially buy their way to what they want. Like Murdoch said when he goes to Downing Street they do as he says but he is ignored in Brussels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Oh, and industrial lobbies have no influence in Brussels? Pull the other leg. This is similar to the argument of those really clever scientists, claiming that loss of EU funding will compromise their research: Well (1) it's not EU money, it's OUR money being controlled by the EU. and (2) Whilst their may well be an argument that we couldn't trust a UK Tory Gov to spend the money as now; that's a matter for the people of the UK to decide at a General Election in the UK; otherwise it's a totally defeatist argument coming from the left, who seem to have given up on ever becoming the Gov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 I note with interest that whenever these kind of "10 facts about the EU" type things come up, the business backers of the leave side never seems to include the Boss of JCB, and that Dyson bloke who makes vacuum cleaners.... I thought some may find this an interesting observation Lord Bamford, although entitled to his opinion , stands amongst very small minority of big businesses when it comes to the EU, here are some and their letter they each signed The businesses we lead represent every sector and region of the United Kingdom. Together we employ more than one million people across the country. Following the Prime Minister’s renegotiation, we believe that Britain is better off staying in a reformed European Union. He has secured a commitment from the EU to reduce the burden of regulation, deepen the single market and to sign off crucial international trade deals. Business needs unrestricted access to the European market of 500 million people in order to continue to grow, invest and create jobs. We believe that leaving the EU would deter investment and threaten jobs. It would put the economy at risk. Britain will be stronger, safer and better off remaining a member of the European Union. – LETTER TO THE TIMES FROM BUSINESS LEADERS Nicholas Judd, Founder & Head of Investment, 90 North Real Estate Partners LLP Matt McLaren, Executive Director, Access Ambition Consultancy Services Ltd Tony Fernandes, GCEO, AirAsia and Founder, Tune Group Paul Kahn, President, Airbus Group UK Jacqueline Gold CBE, CEO, Ann Summers Andy Clarke, Chief Executive, Asda Pascal Soriot, CEO, AstraZeneca Sir Adrian Montague CBE, Chairman, Aviva Paul Evans, Group CEO, AXA UK & Ireland Peter Rogers, CEO, Babcock International Sir Roger Carr, Chairman, BAE Systems Saghir Munir, Partner/Director, Baker & Coleman Solicitors Ltd Richard John Carter, Managing Director, BASF plc Ian Baxter, Chairman, Baxter Freight Limited Una Driscoll, Managing Director, Belt up Kidz Ltd Helen Gibbons, Director, Bizlang Limited Dr Ian Robertson, Board Member, BMW AG Helena Boas, Co-Founder, Bodas Bob Dudley, CEO, BP plc Chris Grigg, CEO, British Land Sir Alan Parker, Chairman, Brunswick Group Gavin Patterson, CEO, BT Group plc Sir Mike Rake, Chairman, BT Group plc Christopher Bailey MBE, CEO, Burberry Group plc Sir John Peace, Chairman, Burberry Group plc and Standard Chartered George Iacobescu CBE, Chairman and CEO, Canary Wharf Group Philip Green, Chairman, Carillion Alex Mitchell, Director, Causarma Limited Iain C. Conn, CEO, Centrica Sarah Golding, CEO and Partner, CHI & Partners Christopher Satterthwaite, Chief Executive, Chime Communications Group Laurent Lacassagne, Chairman and CEO, Chivas Brothers Phil Smith, Chief Executive UK and Ireland, Cisco Sonny Leong, Chief Executive Officer, Civil Service College Ltd Stephen Clarke, Partner/Director, CJCH Ltd Ian Breminer, Managing Director, Complete Coffee Ltd Professor Geeta Nargund, Founder and CEO, CREATE Health Limited Tidjane Thiam, CEO, Credit Suisse Cathy Owens, Director, Deryn Consulting Limited Ivan Menezes, CEO, Diageo Peter Callahan, Director, Diamond Dispersions Ltd Seb James, CEO, Dixons Carphone Martha Lane Fox CBE, Founder, Doteveryone and co-founder, Lucky Voice and Lastminute.com Tim Gentles, Chief Executive Officer, Drill Board Worldwide Limited Dame Carolyn McCall, CEO, EasyJet Lindsley Ruth, CEO, Electrocomponents plc Liz Weatherill, Managing Director, Enable2 C.I.C Amjad Bseisu, Chief Executive, EnQuest plc Damien Croft, Director, Esplora Limited Charlie Shaw, Managing Director, Esteiro Business Solutions Limited Adam Shuter, Managing Director, Exact Logistics Limited Roland Rudd, Chairman, Finsbury James Farley, Executive Vice President and President, Europe, Ford Nacho Morais, Director, Frank Consulting Ltd Michael Keegan, Executive Director EMEIA Region, Fujitsu Stewart Wingate, CEO, Gatwick Airport Ltd Mark Elborne, UK CEO, General Electric Nigel Stein, Chief Executive, GKN Hazel Pegg, Director, Glastonbury Online Ltd Richard Gnodde, Co-CEO, Goldman Sachs International Michael Sherwood, Co-CEO, Goldman Sachs International Tom Gosnell, Managing Director, Gosnells Beverages Ltd Juliette Polge de Combret, Director, Green Rendez-Vous Ltd Sir Andrew Witty, CEO, GSK Jenny Halpern Prince, CEO, Halpern David Atkins, Chief Executive, Hammerson plc John Holland-Kaye, CEO, Heathrow Allen Hogan, Managing Director, Hogan's Cider Ltd Ashley Govier, Managing Director, Hotel Services Group Ltd Stuart Gulliver, CEO, HSBC Douglas Flint CBE, Chairman, HSBC Mark Hutchinson, Managing Director, Hutchinson Aerotech Christian Salbaing, Deputy Chairman, Hutchison Whampoa Julian Smith, Director, I Am Enterprises Ltd David Stokes, CEO, IBM Dan Hydes, Managing Director, Ignite Data Ltd Ralf Speth KBE, CEO, Jaguar Land Rover Mahmood Faiz, Director, James William Estate Agents Jane Field, Owner/Founder, Jonny’s Sister Katharine Pooley, Chief Executive and Owner, Katharine Pooley Interior Design Kelly Hoppen MBE, Director, Kelly Hoppen Interiors Martin Dare-Edwards, Chief Executive Officer, Ketonex Ltd Veronique Laury, CEO, Kingfisher plc Neil Clifford, Chief Executive, Kurt Geiger Ian Walker, Director, LaundryRepublic Ltd Sir Julian Horn-Smith, Advisory Board Member, LetterOne Technology John Nelson, Chairman, Lloyd’s of London Christopher Parker, Managing Director, London and Scottish International Ltd Xavier Rolet KBE, CEO, London Stock Exchange Debbie Wosskow, Chief Executive Officer, Love Home Swap Ltd Tim Allen, Managing Director, M J Allen Group Ltd Jess Burley, Global CEO, M/Six Mark Reynolds, Chief Executive, Mace Group Charlie Cornish, Chief Executive, Manchester Airports Group Martin Lamb, Director, Maple Consulting Ltd Christopher Peer, Managing Director, Maritime House Limited Rick Haythornthwaite, Chairman, Mastercard Ron Dennis CBE, Chairman and CEO, McLaren Technology Group Clare Hornby, Founder and Creative Director, ME+EM Sir Nigel Rudd, Chairman, Meggitt Doug Dooley, Managing Director, MICC & TRM Ltd Byron Dixon, Chief Executive Officer, Micro-Fresh International Kanya King MBE, CEO and Founder, MOBO Organisations Ltd Rana Harvey, Managing Director, Monster Group (UK) Ltd Fraser Smeaton, Chief Executive, Morphsuits Alan Parker CBE, Chairman, Mothercare Dean Finch, CEO, National Express Group Mary Nelson, Director, Nelson Browne Management Ltd Sam Laidlaw, Chairman, Neptune Oil and Gas Miisa Mink, Chairperson, Nordic Bakery Limited Andrew Mitchell, Chief Executive, North East Finance Ltd Geeta Sidhu-Robb, CEO and Founder, Nosh Detox Tim Steiner, CEO, Ocado Group Stuart Rose, Chairman, Ocado Group Christina Richardson, CMO, Openr Charlie Thuillier, Managing Director, Oppo Brothers Limited Pia Marocco, Managing Director, Osborne & Partners Luke Brynley-Jones, Managing Director, Our Social Times Ltd Paul Simpson, Director, Paul Simpson Ltd John Fallon, CEO, Pearson Ayman Asfari, CEO, Petrofac Graham Spencer, Executive Director, Plants for Europe Ltd Scott Rowland, Chief Executive Officer, Precept (UK) Ltd Mike Wells, Group Chief Executive, Prudential plc Steve Wadey, CEO, QinetiQ Mary Quicke, Managing Director, Quickes Traditional Ltd Raman Sehgal, Director, Ramarketing & PR Ltd Sir Peter Rigby, CEO & Chairman, Rigby Group PLC Jan du Plessis, Chairman, Rio Tinto Group Warren East CBE, CEO, Rolls Royce Ben Van Beurden, CEO, Royal Dutch Shell Stephen Hester, CEO, RSA Insurance Michael O’Leary, Chief Executive, Ryanair Alan Clark, CEO, SABMiller Alison Edgar, Managing Director, Sales Coaching Solutions Ltd Nathan Bostock, CEO, Santander UK Shriti Vadera, Chair, Santander UK Caroline Cole, Director, Savoir Faire Accounting Ltd Tori Chilcott, Co-Founder, Scoota Rupert Soames OBE, CEO, SERCO Juergen Maier, UK CEO, Siemens Mark Lyndon, Director, Signature Marketing Limited Simon Barrow, Director, Simon Barrow Associates Melanie Goldsmith, Director, Smith & Sinclair Ltd Jonathan Grubin, CEO, SoPost Ltd Doug Squires, Director, Squires Gear and Engineering Limited Bill Winters, CEO, Standard Chartered Ian Barnett, Director, Surfanic International Ltd Dr Heather McGregor CBE, CEO, Taylor Bennett Ronan Dunne, Chief Executive, Telefonica O2 UK Sara Bell, CEO, Tempus Energy Billy Walker, Managing Director, The Benriach Distillery Company Ltd Daniel Williams, Managing Director, The Bottle Shop (Penarth) Ltd Jay Risbridger, Director, The Green Stationery Company Ltd Sally Greene OBE, Chief Executive, The Old Vic Margo Marrone, Co-Founder, The Organic Pharmacy Rory Curnock Cook, Director, The Profs Tuition Ltd Lady Ruth Rogers MBE, Owner, The River Café Niamh Barker, Managing Director, The Travelwrap Company Ltd John Harries, Proprietor, Three Horseshoes Inn Stephen Weil, Managing Director, TI Partners Bernardo Ivo Cruz, Global Managing Partner, True Bridge Consultancy Peter Long, Supervisory Board Member & former Chief Executive, TUI Travel Olivier Dochez, Chief Executive Officer, Two Guys From Brussels Paul Polman, CEO, Unilever Lucian Grainge CBE, Chairman and CEO, Universal Music Group Kate Unsworth, Founder and CEO, Vinaya Peter Berry, Managing Partner, VIP Labels Tom Mockridge, Chief Executive, Virgin Media Jayne-Anne Gadhia, CEO, Virgin Money Ian Taylor, CEO and President, Vitol Vittorio Colao, CEO, Vodafone Sir Peter Kendall, Director, W J Kendall Contracting Limited Kasim Ali, Director, Waterloo Tea Limited Keith Cochrane, Chief Executive, Weir Group Sir Terence Matthews, Chairman, Wesley Clover Karren Brady, Vice-Chairman, West Ham FC Dr Uwe Kruger, Chief Executive, WS Atkins Rich Clothier, Managing Director, Wyke Farms These individuals have stated they are signing in a personal capacity: Greg Hodkinson, Chairman, Arup Andrew Mackenzie, CEO, BHP Billiton Paul Walsh, CEO, Compass Group Kathryn Parsons, Co-Founder and CEO, Decoded Rupert Pearce, CEO, Inmarsat Richard Reed, Co-Founder, Innocent Drinks and Jam Jar Investments Patrick O'Sullivan, Chairman of ERS Ltd, Lloyds of London Marc Bolland, CEO, Marks and Spencer Karen Blackett OBE, Chairwoman, MediaCom Steve Holliday, CEO, National Grid Gail Rebuck DBE, Chairman, Random House UK Graham Chipchase, Chief Executive, Rexam Dido Harding, Chief Executive, TalkTalk Lloyd Dorfman, President, Travelex Rakesh Sharma, Chief Executive, Ultra Electronics Holding Stefano Pessina, Executive Vice Chairman and CEO, Walgreens Boots Alliance Sir Martin Sorrell, CEO, WPP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 And a letter in the Telegraph with even more names.... So we have established that Business doesn't know either way too... SIR – Britain is the fifth biggest economy in the world and, on current projections, will overtake Germany to become Europe’s powerhouse. Britain is America’s largest inward investor, and our openness and dynamism mean we attract more inward investment than any other European country. Three of the world’s top 10 universities are British, we speak the international language of business, our legal system is trusted round the world and we have an unrivalled reputation for innovation and creativity. These are just some of the reasons we believe that Britain is world-class. However, we also believe that Britain’s competitiveness is being undermined by our membership of a failing EU. Year-on-year the EU buys less from Britain because its economies are stagnant and millions of people are unemployed. According to Mervyn King, the former governor of the Bank of England, the euro “might explode”. Brussels’ red tape stifles every one of Britain’s 5.4 million businesses, even though only a small minority actually trade with the EU. It is business – not government – which generates wealth for the Treasury and jobs for our communities. Outside the EU, British business will be free to grow faster, expand into new markets and create more jobs. It’s time to vote leave and take back control. Arun Ahluwalia, Director, Opera Opera Opticians Kay Alexander, Founder, Kay Alexander Andrew Allum, Partner, LEK Consulting John Amor, Owner, The Wight Hotel Arabella Arkwright, Co-Founder, Core Health & Wellness Johnnie Arkwright, Chief Executive, Hatton Technology Park Iftikhar Awan, Director, Awan Consulting Farzana Baduel, Founder, Curzon PR Jeremy Bagge, Director, Stradsett Estate Farms Iain Baillie, Founder & Co-Chief Executive, Asset Match Davinder Bains, Director, A1 Labour Supply David Baldwin, Managing Director, Bymed Neil Ballantyne, Managing Director, Ballantynes of Walkerburn Diane Banks, Chief Executive, Diane Bank Associates Patrick Barbour, Former Chairman, Barbour Index & Microgen Dave Barnby, Proprietor, Books2buyBooks2write Martin Barraclough, Chairman, Giles W Pritchard-Gordon (Shipowning) Peter Barrow, Commercial Director, Barco Sales Oliver Barton, Owner, Oliver's Kitchen Andrew Baxter, Managing Director, Europa Worldwide Logistics Neville Baxter, Director, RH Development Property Nigel Baxter, Managing Director, RH Commercial Vehicles Kevin Bell, Director, CDM 2014 Martin Bellamy, Chairman and Chief Executive, Salamanca Group Dave Bentley, Ecological Consultant, Dave Bentley Ecology Services Grahame Berkeley, Chairman, Berkeley Burke Group Stephen Bernhard, Founder, Bernhard Grinders & Co Saqib Bhatti, Director, Younis Bhatti & Co Robin Birley, Proprietor, 5 Hertford Street Peter Bishop, Managing Director & Founder, Bishop GmbH Edward Bonnar, Director, Beaufort & Blake Gareth Bott, Founder, R.E.P Air Services Peter Botting, Founder, Peter Botting Simon Boyd, Director, John Reid & Sons Ivor Braka, Director, Ivor Braka Rob Bransgrove, Chairman, The Ageas Bowl Simon Brewer, Chief Executive, Vantage Investment Advisory Harriet Bridgeman, Founder, Bridgeman Art Library Stephen Britt, Managing Director, Anchor Storage Solutions James Bromley, Director, Quality of Sales Andrew Brown, Director, Haircut House Ian Brown, Managing Director, Industrial Maintenance Engineers (IME Contracts) David Buik, Market Commentator, Panmure Gordon & Co Dominic Burke, Group Chief Executive, Jardine Lloyd Thompson Group Jeremy Burrowes, Director, Grove Mill Developments Thomas Burton, Director, Agri Farm Services Tony Byrne, Managing Director, Wealth & Tax Management Michael Campbell, Chairman, The Ellis Campbell Group Lee Canning, Director, Leaflet Distribution and Promotional Services Mark Cannon Brookes, Director, Smith & Williamson Investment Management Hugh Cavendish, Chairman, Holker Estate Group Julian Cazalet, Chairman, Herald Investment Trust Peter Chadha, Chief Executive, DrPete Technology Experts Ian Chamberlain, Director & Owner, Berkeley Entertainments Carl Chambers, Non-Executive Director, CNG Chris Chatfield, Managing Director, Compass Travel Peter Chesterfield, Former Executive Chairman, Wessex Asset Management Moorad Choudhry, Former Chief Executive, Habib Bank Aftab Chughtai, Director, AFTABS Adam Cleary, Chief Executive, Cavenham Capital Reg Clifton, Proprieter, QED Electrical Services Andrew Clowes, Director, AHC & Partners Paul Coffin, Managing Director , Capital Financial Markets Colin Coldwell, UK Managing Director, InfoQuest Tim Congdon, Founder, Lombard Street Research Steve Conley, Managing Director, Protol Comar John Cook, Managing Director, Croudace Properties Group Anthony Coombs, Chairman, S&U David Cooper, Director, Commercial Litigation Funding Andrew Cope, Chairman, Zenith Daniel Corrigan, CME European Trade Repository, Chief Executive Alan Cosby, Chairman, G B Kent & Sons James Crocker, Managing Partner, Howell & Co Solicitors Peter Cruddas, Chief Executive, CMC Markets Philip Cullimore, Chairman, Eastman Kodak SARL Richard Cuming, Partner, Bygones Torquay Jonathan Dancy, Managing Partner, JCR Associates Kevin Davies, Director, KDM Events Kenneth Davy, Chairman, SimplyBiz Damon de Laszlo, Chairman, Harwin Patrick de Pelet, Partner, Bowden Farms and Services David Dean, Commercial Manager, INRG Solar Alexander Deane, Managing Director, FTI Consulting Bill Dixon, Director, Cumbria X Press Judith Donovan, Chairman, DIY Direct Marketing Steve Dowdle, Former Vice President, Sony Europe William Drake, Co-Founder, Lord North Street Simon Dunn, Managing Director, Stayway John Elliott, Chairman, Ebac Graham Ellis, Founder, Ellis Transport Services Michael Faber, Chairman, Lyall Management Nicholas Fairfax, Chairman of the Advisory Board, Hawki Worldwide R H Fewster, Chairman, Dalsara John Fifield, Chairman, Fifield Glyn Nick Finegold, Chief Executive, Curation Corporation Peter Finnie, Former Chief Engineer, Cranswick Country Foods Scott Fletcher, ANS Group, Chairman & Founder Howard Flight, Chairman, Flight & Partners Lance Forman, Owner, H. Forman & Son Rocco Forte, Executive Chairman, The Rocco Forte Collection Joe Foster, Co-Founder, Reebok Mark Fox, Managing Director, MEK David Franks, Chairman, Redcomb Pubs David S Franks, Chief Executive, Franks Advances Michael Freeman, Co-founder, Argent Property Group Harry Fuchs, Chief Executive, Haryl (1991) Anthony Fuller, President, Fuller, Smith & Turner Roger Gabb, Director, Bibendum Wine Alexei Garan, Founder & Principal, Receptis Capital Rupert Gather, Chairman, Invest UK Michael Geoghegan, Former Chief Executive, HSBC Group Peter Gilbert, Proprietor, Dunstanburgh Castle Golf Course Peter Goldstein, Co-Founder, Superdrug Stores Anthony Good, Chairman, Cox & Kings Travel Bill Good, Chief Executive, Diverco Phil Good, Chief Executive, Hopewiser Campbell Gordon, Managing Partner, Optimus Capital LLP Chris Gower, Founder, Lawbrook Partners LLP Alexander Graham, Former Deputy Chairman, The Frizzell Group Roddy Graham, Director, THB Group Richard Green, Partner , Parkinson Wright Solicitors Tim Guinness, Chief Investment Officer, Guinness Atkinson Justin Hall, Chief Executive, Protocol Global Alan Halsall, Former Chairman, Silver Cross Frederick Hamilton, Director, Dscribe Michael Hancocks, Former Director, New Metals & Chemicals Giles Hankinson, Business Development Director, Paperless Receipts Peter K Hargreaves, Co-Founder, Hargreaves Lansdown Elaine Harries, Managing Director, Action Express Kevin Harrington, Chief Executive, one2one Digital Ian Harris, Proprietor, N Bloom & Son David Hartley, Director, Bymed Surgical John Hatt, Founder, cheapflights.com Jeremy Hawke, Director, BMR Group Adrian Hayes, Business Coach Oliver Hemsley, Chief Executive Officer, Numis Securities Ian Herbert, Chief Executive Officer, Vistair Systems Jonathan Heywood, Managing Director, IFP-UK John Hickman, Chairman and Founder, Kingston Estates Robert Hiscox, Honorary President, Hiscox Insurance Will Hobhouse, Chairman, Heal's Daniel Hodson, Chairman, BPL (Holdings) Mark Hodson, Managing Director, Spirthill Business Development John Hoerner, Former Chief Executive Officer, Tesco Clothing (UK and Central Europe) Christine Hogg, Director, CAMS Fire & Security Roger Holehouse, Chairman, Fernwood Group Margaret Hook, Director, Darlena Jeremy Hosking, Founder, Hosking & Co Kevin Hughes, Director, Trull House Stud Varimder Hundal, Director, Universal Brothers David Hunter, Director, Smith & Williamson Adrian Huston, Director, Huston & Co Tax Consultants & Accountants Graham Hutton, Founder, Hutton Collins Partners LLP William Hynett, Chief Executive, Britten-Norman Malcolm Innes, Founder, Malcolm Innes Pictures Clive Jacobs, Chairman, Jacobs Media Group Ajay Jagota, Chief Executive, KIS Group Jack Jenkins, Partner, Hitchenor Wakeford Paul Jenkins, Director, NorthIT Mike Jepson, Managing Director, MTP Innovations Adrian Johnson, Former Chief Executive, LGV Capital Arthur Jones, Founder, ANJ Executive William Jones, Chairman, Global Village Dr Bernard Juby, Medical Practitioner Nicholas Jupe, Director, NJ Consulting Saleem Kader, Chief Executive, Bombay Stores Group Stanley Kalms, Founder, Business for Sterling Chris D Kelly, Chairman, Keltruck Geoffrey Kelly, Managing Director, Euro Strategies Alistair Kelman, Chief Executive, Cachebox TV John Kersey, Managing Director, Kersey Hairdressing George Kieffer, Director, Piazza Rights Adrian King, Founder, K T & Partners Brian Kingham, Chairman, Reliance Security Group David Kirk, Director, David Kirk & Co Nicholas Kirk, Director, Aslan Investments Peter Kleeman, Founding Chairman, Allside Asset Management Company Harry Langton, Director, Langton Watzdorf Inernational Robert Law, Managing Director, AGD Equipment James Lee, Partner, J&S Farms Michael Liebreich, Founder, Bloomberg New Energy Finance Craig Lindsay, Director, Core Specialist Services Jonathan Little, Managing Partner, Northill Capital LLP Royston Lloyd-Baker, Partner, Lloyd-Baker & Associates LLP John Longworth, Former Director General, British Chamber of Commerce Mark Loveday, Former Senior Partner, Cazenove & Co Rupert Lowe, Former Chairman, Southampton Leisure Holdings Gary Lydiate, Chief Executive Officer, Kilfrost Group William MacDougall, Co-Managing Director, MacDougall Arts Colin Mackenzie, Founder, CompareGroup Alastair MacMillan, Founding Director, White House Products Colin Maitland, Chairman, Netcentrix Tim Martin, Chairman, JD Wetherspoon Graham Mason, Owner, M54 Self Storage John May, Founder, Hillhouse Nexus Adrian McAlpine, Partner, Sir Robert McAlpine Peter McLane, Founder and Managing Director, Indigo Software James Mellor, Chief Executive, Rainbow Trout Films Keith Miles, Former Financial Director, Institute of Economic Affairs Edgar Miller, Managing Director, Palladian Marcus Miller, Managing Director, Millers Bespoke Bakery Phillip Miller, Chairman and Chief Executive, Adventure Island Philip Milton, Investment Fund Manager and Senior IFA, Philip Milton & Co Tom Moloney, Founder, Transair Flight Equipment Gary Mond, Managing Director, Redcliffe Training Associates David Mond, Chief Executive, ClearDebt Group Julian Morgan, Joint Managing Director and Owner, KPM-Marine Philip Morrell, Owner, Magna Carta Steamship Co Luke Morris, Partner, Larking Gowen Jon Moulton, Chairman, Better Capital LLP Jon Moynihan, Chairman, Ipex Capital Richard Mulligan, Managing Director, Impact Electrical Distributors Paul Munday, Managing Director, Fiscal House Andy Nichols, Owner, Blacksmith & More Christopher Nieper, Managing Director, David Nieper Richard Norton, Former Director, HSBC Project and Export Finance Roderick Oliver, Proprietor, Field 'n Family Petcare Services Mark Owen, Proprietor, Fulwood Computers Ian Page, Chairman, CTL Components Kevin Pakenham, Co-Founder, Pakenham Partners Tim Parker, Chief Executive, Messels Stewart Paterson, Fund Manager, Tiburon Partners LLP Richard Patient, Managing Director, Thorncliffe Simon, Pearson-Miles, Chairman, Sterling Financial Print Jeffrey, Peel, Founder, Quadriga Consulting Adrian Pepper, Chief Executive Officer, Pepper Media Group Andrew Perloff, Director, Panther Securities Michael Petley, Chief Investment Officer, The ECU Group Richard Post, Proprietor, Architectural Ideas David Powell, Chairman, Powell Engineering UK Bruno Prior, Managing Director, Forever Fuels Emma Pullen, Chief Executive, British Hovercraft Mark Pursey, Managing Partner, BTP Advisers David Pusinelli, Non-Executive Director, Charles Stanley Group Rollo Reid, Director, John Reid & Sons David Reid Scott, Former Chairman, Stonehage Fleming Chris Riley, Executive Chairman, Verisio Jamie Robb, Managing Director, Marlborough Tiles Alan Roberts, Managing Director, Alan Roberts & Co Solicitors Robin Ronaldshay, Director, Zetland Estates Clive Rook, Founder & ex-Managing Director, Rook Matthews Sayer Property Frank Rotherham, Managing Director, Ventcroft Simon Rowland, Chief Executive, Veritas International Richard Royden, Director, Royden & Co Christopher Russell, Managing Director, Watercare International John Sanders, Former Non-Executive Director, CIT Bank Andrew Saunders, Financial Director, Scotchcoulthard Savvas Savouri, Chief Economist & Partner, Toscafund Asset Management LLP Charles Sebag Montefiore, Senior Independent Director, Scholium Group Graham Sedgley, Principal, Peplow Recruitment Services Patrick Sheehy, Founder Chairman , BAT David Shipley, Managing Partner, Spitfire Capital Advisors Peter Shirley, Managing Director, Midland Food Group Denys Shortt, Chairman & Chief Executive, Enable.com Christian Siegl, Executive Director, Sovereign Star Trade Finance David Sismey, Managing Director, Goldmans Sachs Andrew Smith, Director, Capital Management Resources LLP Tracy Smith, Founder, Plummers Place Guesthouse Percy Snow, Director, Snows Commercials Bernard Sparkes, Managing Director, Tubby Brands David Speakman, Founder, Travel Counsellors Peter Stabler, Director, The Oswald Partnership Charles Stone, Director, Calcot Hotels Richard Stoughton, Chairman, Crossflight Phil Strong, Managing Director, Chameleon Bar & Dining Andrew Sutcliffe, Managing Director, Nu Level Rhoddy Swire, Founder, Pantheon Ventures Mark Thackray, Director, Textronix Brian Thomas, Director, Thomas Tooling Paul Thomas, Director, Thomas Tooling Peter Thompson, Former Chairman, NFC Clive Thorne, Partner, Wedlake Bell LLP John Thorpe, Founder & Technical Director, Millennia Computer Services Susan Todd, Director, Solent Motor Homes John Toppin, Partner, Nomizon Associates Jeremy Tozer, Managing Director, Tozer Consulting Tim Trotter, Chairman, Glenfern Edmund Truell, Chairman, Disruptive Capital Denzil Vallance, Managing Director, Great Heck Brewing Co Victor van Amerongen, Chairman & Creative Director, Space City Production Alexander van Terheyden, Chief Executive, Schneider Camara LLP Simon Vicary, Managing Director, Vicary Plant Spares UK Amanda Vigar, Managing Partner, V&A Vigar Group Chris Vincent, Managing Director, Orchardleigh Nigel Vinson, Former Director, British Airports Authority Peter Walton, Director, C Walton Stuart Waring, Chairman, Heaton Holdings Tim Watts, Chairman, Pertemps Investments Penelope Wayne, Director, Penway Homes David Webster, Former Chairman, IHG Michael Webster, Co-Founder, Gorkana Simon Wells, Director, Delta T Group Adam Wethered, Co-Founder, Lord North Street Mark Wheatley, Common Councilman, City of London Stuart Wheeler, Founder, IG Group Mark Whelan, Owner, Confused2Move Andrew White, Former Partner, Mayer Brown Bert Wiegman, Managing Partner, Langholm Capital Jack Wigglesworth, Founder and former Chairman, LIFFE Stephen, Wilkinson, Managing Director, CAS Recruitment Brian Williamson, Senior Advisor, Fleming Family & Partners Wealth Planning John Winter, Chief Executive, Ruxley Ventures Brian Winterflood, Founder, Winterflood Securities John Wright, Managing Director, Modern Design Group Brian Yeardley, Founder, Brian Yeardley Continental Phil Yorke, Managing 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P J Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 haha compare the lists Baz, and have a look at the positions presently held by each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 haha compare the lists Baz, and have a look at the positions presently held by each. haha...I don't care....my list is longer than your list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 haha...I don't care....my list is longer than your list all that is missing is Nigel Farages Bargain Booze branch They look like the adverts you see around the non league grounds at cup ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Think in your confidence in "experts", you've lost track of why the public are ignoring them. These are, by and large, the same "experts" or interest groups, that wanted us to join the ERM - disaster; join the Euro - shambles. This isn't just a vote to leave the EU, it's a vote against political establishments, that have lost touch with their public. Now it may not cut any ice with those not born at the time of the ERM crisis or Euro debate; but hopefully enough will remember and vote accordingly, even if it does mean the loss of their bus pass ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Think in your confidence in "experts", you've lost track of why the public are ignoring them. These are, by and large, the same "experts" or interest groups, that wanted us to join the ERM - disaster; join the Euro - shambles. This isn't just a vote to leave the EU, it's a vote against political establishments, that have lost touch with their public. Now it may not cut any ice with those not born at the time of the ERM crisis or Euro debate; but hopefully enough will remember and vote accordingly, even if it does mean the loss of their bus pass ! so which of the experts do you know more than Observer? Tell me again, what do you do for a living? Nobel prize winning economist? head of NATO? Chairman of the Bank of England? I could go on. So come on, what job are you in that qualifies you to rubbish their claims? So its a protest vote, not based in whats best for Britain, just a chance to give a bloody nose to some politicians, aided and abetted by some politicians :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Don't claim to "know" more, just choose not to believe - subtle difference. btw not all the "experts" are in the Remain camp either. But at the end of the day this is a choice for ordinary (non-expert) people, it's called democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Small businesses make up the vast majority of employers in this country but it is the large corporations that supposedly have the vested interest in staying in the EU. In that case there shouldn't even be a James Dyson or Lord Bamford batting for the leave campaign at all.... especially one like Bamford who has the audacity to trade with 150 countries and still want to leave. Now he can hardly be classed as a swivel eyed loon or a racist... but no doubt the remain lot will have a try at that at some point. You also have to take into account that many of the ones in post at the moment could well be shackled to thinking the way are told to think.... otherwise, why would the Chief of the British Chambers of Commerce resign his position so he could freely express his opinions on why a Brexit would provide a brighter future for UK businesses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Chief of the British Chambers of Commerce resign his position so he could freely express his opinions on why a Brexit would provide a brighter future for UK businesses? Because he overstepped the rules of his employment perhaps? ps. more SME support remain than support leave but admittedly a smaller majority than the big companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 On the basis that "the experts" know it all; perhaps we could dispense with democracy altogether and just have everything run by panels of "experts" ? Which appears to be the way the EU tries to do things ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 better than unqualified muppets with the correct school tie running education one week then defence the next. Much sooner see expert clinicians at the helm of the NHS than Jeremy Hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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