observer Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Blah, blah - the sound of the clueless running out of steam ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Kije... do some reading about businesses and the EU http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/the-great-and-good-urging-us-to-vote-in-have-been-bought-off-by-brussels/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Blah, blah - the sound of the clueless running out of steam ! will you be voting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 All good stuff Baz, they just don't realise the powerfull forces of interest, in play here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 All good stuff Baz, they just don't realise the powerfull forces of interest, in play here. riveting but will you be voting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 riveting but will you be voting? why does that matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 why does that matter? I didn't ask you Baz, i want to know if Observer will be voting in the referendum, its a simple enough question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 well I would assume he will be so why turn into Kije with the cut and paste of the same question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 I can assure you I typed it each time. Ask yourself why he won't answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Just because I have no illusions about the gravity and the forces at play in this referendum, doesn't mean I won't be exercising my democratic right (what's left of it), to vote. Given the EU response to the Dutch referendum and the Irish one before that, if we do give the EU the wrong answer, they may make us do it all again ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 I asked.... and the answer I got was "He likes to wind you up by not answering" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Just because I have no illusions about the gravity and the forces at play in this referendum, doesn't mean I won't be exercising my democratic right (what's left of it), to vote. Given the EU response to the Dutch referendum and the Irish one before that, if we do give the EU the wrong answer, they may make us do it all again ! So you say the vote is rigged against your side, that Labour are already filling sacks of ethnic postal votes against your side, the Government are rigging the referendum yet you will be voting? Thats because you are just making up all the vote rigging nonsense aren't you? You are using your own little version of Project Lies aren't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Errm nope, I know how they operate - you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 The facts speak for themselves when it comes to past referendums on EU membership, treaty change and in the case of the latest on in Holland, on procurring closer ties with Ukraine... the EU doesn't like to be voted against and if it is, it does all it can to change the outcomes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Errm nope, I know how they operate - you don't. wear the tin foil hat when you go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Errm nope, I know how they operate - you don't. so have you any evidence of the illegal vote rigging that took place in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 It's actually difficult to prove, and it's more vote farming than rigging. In some ethnic groups the view of the head male translates into a response from the rest of the family, so PV is ideal, for the top man to fill in, and for the underlings to sign. Basically patronage all the way up, to the LA; who provide the community development incentives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 So utter fantasy then, like Farage you made it up. You don't have a shred of evidence that this is going to happen do you. Project Lies would be so proud of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Another question, how do you know that all "ethnic" voters are for staying in the EU? Did you imagine that too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Depends on how they're told to vote. It's happened, and Farage was on the receiving end; I'm only surprised that he was surprised ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 9, 2016 Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 Depends on how they're told to vote. It's happened, and Farage was on the receiving end; I'm only surprised that he was surprised ! More unfounded bunkem. Farage had no evidence of foul play, just his bigoted accusations, same as you really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2016 I didn't say "foul play"; merely a cynical adaptation to the electoral system, IE turning out all the available vote to get the result required, irrespective of the arguments employed - modern politics, get used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 No excuses, just reality: this referendum will be fixed, it simply can't be allowed to deliver an "out" vote. So this was someone else then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 That's the strategic situation, we'd moved on to the tactical antics of Labour; but such detail wouldn't concern you, when your trying to score a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted April 10, 2016 Report Share Posted April 10, 2016 you claimed that the referendum was going to be fixed , that is illegal ergo........... you were either making it up or lying or you actually believe this to be the case. Have you contacted the police about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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