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With a neck of brass, Fony Bliar has the nerve to warn Labour against a move to the left - a move towards actually being a socialist party; saying that such a move would be to ignore the electorate. Well Tony, just look at the Scottish result; Labour lost because it was seen as too right wing and out of touch with working folk; the Scots calling them "Red Tories".  A similar view will no doubt exist in the rest of the Country, outside London and the S/East by Labour voters. Jeremy Corbyn is clearly the heavier amongst a quartet of lightweight candidates for Leader, and carries some conviction in his beliefs, unlike most all things to all men, politicians of today.

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But, even if Corbyn won the vote, would he have enough party support to table his policies & parliamentary  clout to implement any ? Most MPs these days will nail their colours to whichever mast benefits their own careers never mind what their "principles" dictate.

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They're probably due for a long spell in opposition, until the Tories have finished taking us back to the 30s and beyond, and run out of steam, like they did under Maggie.  By then the electoral landscape will have changed considerably, making any alternative appealing. But your right in a way Dave, no doubt the Bliarite careerists would bail out, as did the gang of four in the past. The problem with the political Party system is, that despite their use of focus groups, their political dogma overrides  public opinion; leaving voters to have to take the bad along with the good. EG: The SNP are pro-EU and pro-immigration, but there is no evidence that Scots voters support that position, in fact the opposite. It would seem common sense for a political party to base their policies on majority public opinion as expressed in opinion polls, which might make the terms right and left redundant.

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The SNP are pro-EU and pro-immigration, but there is no evidence that Scots voters support that position, in fact the opposite. 

Utter crap.  UKIP and especially Farage, the only anti immigration anti EU party to stand in Scotland in the election were absolutely destroyed .  They only polled 47000 against the pro EU pro Immigration SNP who polled 1,454,436 but don't let the facts get in the way of a Daily Mail style lie dressed up as truth

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Just because folk have voted for a Party, doesn't for a minute mean they believe in ALL their policies; merely a question of priorities; and the Scots priority was an anti-UK party one. But I don't think, just cos they wear skirts, that the Jocks are a load of luvvies !

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Oh, you know what "they" all think then?!  Tis you who makes it up as you go along. btw Have you sorted out where the first million migrants are going, then the next million and so on, or does that take an ability to see beyond next week?!  Perhaps we could send them all to Scotland?   :lol:

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