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So how many took part in the consultation and if you did what were the things that you wanted in the budget and which ones did you want to see excluded and why?

 

And since when did the council take any notice of what the public thinks? If the consultation told you that people want to put Steve Broomhead on a five day week for his money, stop spending hundreds of thousands of pounds on 20MPH signs the police can't enforce, reverse the increased parking charges in Lymm and Stockton Heath, ask the police to investigate the motives behind the destruction of planning records properly and allow lollipop men to greet local children, what would the council do? 

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I tell you what Geoff. That comes across as facetious. So to be constructive, can you give us an example of any changes of policy the council has come up with after a consultation with local people? I know in all the cases I mentioned, the views of local people have been discounted, so here's a chance for some balance. 

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*Pops in to see the long list of examples from Geoff or other councillors of about-turns or significant policy shifts performed by the council after 'consultation'. Realises there's nothing to see*

 

Hey Geoff - here's another question for you on a related topic. When the pilot schemes of the 20 mph zones covering tens of thousands of car journeys proved that the reduced limit had absolutely zero effect on accidents and casualty numbers in the town and the police told you they weren't interested, wasn't the logical thing to conclude that £750,000 might be spent more wisely in other areas of road safety? So why did the council go to the whole trouble of researching the outcome only to ignore the results?

 

(I already know the answer. I'm being facetious again)   

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Of course the 20mph limits are a load of nonsense and the £750,000 will probably turn out to be double that by the time it is fully implemented. Unfortunately the cycling lobbyists used the old "Health & safety" card and frightened the Councillors into adopting it after skewing the test data by having main roads in the trial and then taking them out of the final plan... unfortunately, doing that added hundreds and hundreds more 20mph and 30mph signs that were needed

 

But it's only money.....our money; but only money to them in power

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Of course the 20mph limits are a load of nonsense and the £750,000 will probably turn out to be double that by the time it is fully implemented. Unfortunately the cycling lobbyists used the old "Health & safety" card and frightened the Councillors into adopting it after skewing the test data by having main roads in the trial and then taking them out of the final plan... unfortunately, doing that added hundreds and hundreds more 20mph and 30mph signs that were needed

 

But it's only money.....our money; but only money to them in power

 

True. So the point remains, if the decision has already been taken, what is the point of consultation and pilot projects? Because what is clear is that if these things don't give the council the answers it wants, they are simply ignored. I suppose the answer is that the council needs to pretend it cares about facts and what people think. I know they have a statutory obligation to carry out certain consultations but that is not always the case.    

 

What recent history tells us, based on the examples of Walton Hall and the planning destruction, is that if you want the council to listen, you have to embarrass them publicly and over an extended period of time. That doesn't always work as the case of the campaign by parents to reinstate a lollipop man greeting their children proved, but it's clearly more useful than engaging with councillors and council employees in dialogue.     

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The second sign of madness is responding to your own posts but you would have thought that councillors would be falling over themselves to highlight the value of public consultations in reshaping their policies with lots of examples. And we know they read these things. But, amazingly there's not a peep from any of them. :P  

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The second sign of madness is responding to your own posts but you would have thought that councillors would be falling over themselves to highlight the value of public consultations in reshaping their policies with lots of examples. And we know they read these things. But, amazingly there's not a peep from any of them. :P  

 

Probably all too busy doing good things for the town

 

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Probably all too busy doing good things for the town

 

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To be fair to our local politicians and public sector employees, they're only doing what happens at national level. So let's say you're a government that has commissioned a report into a project valued at £50 billion but which many people suspect might cost more. Unfortunately the report doesn't tell you what you want to hear. Far from it in fact. What do you do?

 

Why: you bin it, of course. Pretend it doesn't exist and don't let anybody see it. After all it's only tens of billions of public money (going in many circumstances the way of your donors) while you're busy telling taxpayers there is no money at all.   

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