observer Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 How do you prove your a British Subject, aside from carrying your passport around permanently? And how does the UKBF find out whether your legally here, without first stopping you and asking questions? Suppose the first clue, would be an ability or otherwise to speak English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 You don't need to carry your passport around everywhere. A photocopied page, with mugshot and related information, will fold neatly to fit into your wallet and voila...! You have a perfectly acceptable ID on you should you ever need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Surely that would not be acceptable proof at all Cleo. I could just photocopy my sons passport, change it in photoshop to have my pic and details etc and voila. Obviously I wouldn't do that really I wonder how I would prove that I am a Brisitsh Citizen though if I had to as I don't have a passport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 as a British person; you do not need to carry identification around with you.... one of the few freedoms we have left. However I don't see a problem with the police checking someone who may fit the bill as a potential illegal for documentation. If they have no way of proving it, detain them until they can. If they can; let them go and advise them to carry something in the future. If they can't, deport them to wherever they come from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Carry your medical card with you, it has your national Insurance number on it, or in my case I have still got my national Identity card issued during the war, alternatively if you have plenty of time to spare play silly buggers with plod and let him prove who you are!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Carry your medical card with you, it has your national Insurance number on it, Genuine question alg because I can't find the answer, but I thought your medical card had an NHS number on it which is different than your National Insurance Number ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Not got a current passport, don't have a photo card driving license, unsure where my medical card is, birth certificate is in several pieces but legible. So if asked to prove if I am a British subject it would be difficult as I carry no identification apart from a home made business card with my avatar picture on and have no criminal record not even a speeding fine. I do carry a small mirror though so I suppose I could identify myself that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 But Sid, you could quite easily get a photo driving license and a passport if needed so if you get stopped and detained you only have your self to blame! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Genuine question alg because I can't find the answer, but I thought your medical card had an NHS number on it which is different than your National Insurance Number ?? Wolfie, your spot on, it is the NHS number and not NI number as I had stated, I really will have to get a grip on things, I'm getting that way that I have to look at my name tab the wife has sewn on to my jacket in case i get lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Don't mix it up with the 'John Lewis' label Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Looks like we're down to whether they can speak English or not ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 What's a medical card as I haven't got one of those either. Should I have one ? Like you Evils I've not got a photo driving licence either (no passport mentioned earlier).... we could be buggered if we ever have to prove who we are eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 So can you prove you really exist Dizz?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Who is Dizzy observer? I don't see anyone here called Dizzy.You talking to a figment of your own imagination? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 My driving license is valid and legal. I do not need a photo driving license that I have to change every 10 years at a cost of £20.00. I do not holiday abroad unless you count the odd day trip to wales so never seen the need for a passport. I speak fairly good english and am totally fluent in gibberish (especially after a few pints) cannot see why I would be stopped and detained, except maybe for doing something silly whilst driving and even then it would be probably a fine. I have only ever been asked to prove who I was once in all my life so far and that was when I was making a cash withdrawal from the bank ten years ago. I did have my driving license on me strangely enough but that was not accepted as proof. I needed a utility bill for proof now who carries a gas ,electric or water rates bill around with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 You will be ok once you get a bus pass Sid , & that will prove who you are after 9 30 am & you can even smile on the photo Sid . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 It's a rather strange situation where we can't easily prove to a Policeman, who we are; especially in this age of terrorist threats, illegal immigration and mass security surveillance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Good ten years before I will be eligible for a bus pass, or a pension for that matter. I received a letter the other day informing me that I will be able to get my state pension until I am 66 at which point I will be able to get a bus pass as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I have 5 pieces of photo ID just for my job, plus my bus pass. Only one of them identifies me as having Irish nationality though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 Only one of them identifies me as having Irish nationality though. Best get another one just TO BE SURE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Peter T Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Looks like we're down to whether they can speak English or not ! Not very good idea. Some Scandinavians and even Germans can speak better and accentless English than the natives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 I'm going to have my name and address tattoo'd on the soles of my feet, not to prove who I am, it's just in case I get lost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 Don't think there are many Scandinavians or Germans queuing to get into the UK ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 5, 2013 Report Share Posted August 5, 2013 How do you know, You could be living next door to one, False documents and no accent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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