observer Posted June 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 YAWN - I've told you, the decision to retreat from Empire was already made, negotiations were in progress with the various elites in each country for a rational transfer powers; obviously not quick enough for some groups who adopted terrorism to force the pace. It didn't work militarily in Malaya, Cyprus, Yemen or Kenya; where terrorists were defeated prior to a civilised political transfer. I don't recall any general strikes or mass demonstrations by your imagined "majority" - perhaps they were content to see the changes through non-violent means?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Their was an election, Could not find a party advocating the UK stay. Surely the election was to elect the leader of a newly independent nation, not a referendum on leaving the British Empire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 It was Asp, the election was before the British left, I don't think their was a pro colonial candidate, one has to wonder why, If Obs is right he could have won, and the UK might have changed its mind.What do you think Asp, do you think most Kenyans wanted independence, or do you think most want to stay as a colonial outpost????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Of course they wanted independence, and that was why they had an election, to elect a president. As I said, it wasn't a referendum on whether they wanted independence or not. I'm curious as to why you would think otherwise, given that Britain was forced by international, especially US, opinion to relinquish hold on the colonies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Thanks for the common sense intervention Asp; in Kije's fantasy world, you have an election to get back into the Empire, after the Imperial power has conceded independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Yes thanks for the intervention, Obs does not think the majority did, So Obs are we now in agreement the majority of people wanted independence. And independence was a Mau Mau war aim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Kije.... if you are so ashamed and insulted by the former British Empire and resent everything this country seemed to have done as leader of that Empire...... Why are you so for the European Empire that Brussels is trying to create? I mean the Euro Empire has already started falling apart; countries are bankrupt, the people are burning EU flags in Athens and Spain, unemployment in some countries is at 25% or more for some sections of the population and still the EU leaders are trying to screw every penny they can from the "well off" members like us and Germany....(similar if you like to the exploitation of the British Empire countries that you try to make us believe) you say that the majority wanted an end to British rule and you agree and support the fact that they got their wish...... 51% of people polled here want out of the EU.... the similarities are extraordinary!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 The Mau Mau rising was put down 5 years before Independence so, although it may have influenced the decision to grant Independence, I don't think you could say it was the diect reason for it, given that all the former British colonies were being given their Independence around the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 Which is what I've been saying Asp; but he doesn't want to listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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