Not just some of their members and candidates who are ex-BNP then?

[Lt Kije]

Whats your idea of sane government Asp, bring the witch back from the dead?

[observer]

There was a time when UK Governments actually had fundamental issues to sort out; like post war recovery, introduction of a Health and Social Services etc. Now that Brussels overrides everything, it leaves Westminster MPs left with nothing but PC trivia to implement, like fox hunting bans and smoking bans etc.

[asperity]

Stupid comment Lt Kije.

[Lt Kije]

Why?

[asperity]

What is intelligent about "bring the witch back from the dead" Lt Kije? Nothing, so a stupid comment.

[Nick Tessla]

Nick.... you are a fool if you think that 25% of ALL the people who have voted today are now suddenly closet Nazis..... you are living in your little luvvie euro loving world with Kije and the other fluffies.....

 

Well I am afraid that , yet again, you are appear to be a fool for failing to understand what I have posted. Perhaps you really should wipe the angry spittle from your screen, as I have previously suggested, to enable you to see it more clearly.

 

 

I have not suggested that all those who have voted for Nigel Fartrage's mob are Nazis - closet or otherwise, nor would I say that  all their members and supporters are misogynist , homophobes, racists etc. - just a significantly disproportionate number and that UKIP is more likely to attract them than other parties would  (indeed UKIP have made it clear that the motive for taking a stance against same-sex marriage is to attract voters - not for any genuine ideological reason)

[Lt Kije]

Can I take it Asp, you will be avoiding giving us your take on sane government.

[observer]

Strange Nick, that UKIP should want "to attract voters" rather than pursue "genuine ideological" policies - thought that's what Political Parties (certainly mainstream ones) we're all about - doing what the majority of folk want? 

[Lt Kije]

If your right Obs, looks like they are trying to join the establishment

[observer]

Far from it; the establishment gets it's claws in, once a Party gain Office, then they begin to sell out the aspirations of "the people" to the compromises occasioned  by political expediency - which tells us, that the revolution at the ballot box has to be a continual one.

[Nick Tessla]

Far from it; the establishment gets it's claws in, once a Party gain Office, then they begin to sell out the aspirations of "the people" to the compromises occasioned  by political expediency - which tells us, that the revolution at the ballot box has to be a continual one.

 

They are already compromising (reviewing their immigration policy) when their only sniff of power is a joining in with debates on bin collection in local council chambers. We can only assume that the back-pedalling would involve them demanding we join the euro if they got into parliament     

[observer]

Bit of wishfull thinking there Nick;  as long as they move the political agenda over to leaving the EU, the ECHR and sorting out immigration, they'll remain popular.

[Lt Kije]

You hope, Obs

[observer]

Well if you've listened to the Queen's speech, you'll see the Gov are trying to clamp down on immigration already - unfortunately, it's too little, too late.

[Nick Tessla]

So will landlords be expected to act as unpaid border agency guards every time they want to rent someone a bedsit - or just when prospective tenants have a funny, foreign name or look a bit dusky?

[Nick Tessla]

I saw this headline and thought - will they please stop going on about Nigel F****** Farage

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22436942

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bazj]

Blimey Nick; your sense of humour is on a par with Jimmy Tarbucks....

[Lt Kije]

If its to late Obs, as you are saying, why bother with UKIP?

[observer]

It's only too late for too little.  Hence the need for politics that will take us out of the EU, the ECHR and set up an adequately resourced and rational immigration system - perhaps something can be salvaged from the current mess and the country saved.

[Lt Kije]

 - unfortunately, it's too little, too late.

This is what you posted, so no point in voting UKIP

[observer]

Errm, nope - the piece meal offerings in the Queen's speech, some already law but not enforced, some merely rhetoric as long as we're in the EU & ECHR - ARE too little and too late. Exiting the EU & ECHR wouldn't be "too late".