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  1. I see Mr Asperity is back on the trail with all that that entails... Peridot
  2. My Godmother Margaret Hankey nee Ashley and formerly Norcott married into the Hankey family of pig farmers at Stretton in the 1960s. Both are now deceased and I believe the house named Mosswood Hall is now semi - derelict and part of another farm. Hope this helps... Peridot
  3. I've just lost a long post which took me ages to type and will not be re - typing it. I suspect sabotage... Peridot
  4. Asperity - if you really want to sound credible then you should not use Ancient Rome or Cicero as your mantra and I speak as a classics combined graduate. Rome only grew rich on the capture of other states and the subjugation of it's populations and enslavement of them, usually into domestic households or galleys and that is how it's Treasuries grew rich. Does that sound familiar...? Rome was top heavy with Senators and Consuls who took what they could and lived like Gods - again familiar...? Rome did not need to give aid to foreign lands as they ruled most of them and as for hard work this wa
  5. Thanks Baz and Diz for the tips which I will follow up. At the moment I haven't located enough photos to make it viable to publish but am following up some leads gained from David Forrest's booklet called "Warrington Places of Worship", first published in 1990 and regularly revised since and probably still on sale in the main Library. It isn't illustrated but does as far as is known contain details of all present and former churches and chapels. I have spent hours looking through it despite it only being about 55 pages long. The detail is amazing. Peridot
  6. Hi All My grandmother always maintained that she had seen the Zeppelin passing over Penketh. presumably on it's way either to or from Bold. The reference to Malton is almost certainly an error as it is a famous racehorse town in Yorkshire. Peridot
  7. Hi again Sorry for the slight delay in acknowledging Hill Cliffe walker's last response but I only have access to a laptop at certain times of the week. Thanks to HCw for the last information and having downloaded the appraisals the information therein is just what I have been looking for. My interest in Warrington's churches has been coupled with an idea of exploring the possibility of producing a booklet containing as many photos as exist of demolished/former churches in the Town but at the moment there seem many gaps for example: Stepney Chapel, Cockhedge Mission, Ellesmere Street Metho
  8. Hi All Thanks greatly for your replies which are most informative. I had no idea that this Church was such a grandiose building and had rather imagined it to be on a scale similar to All Saint's Mission in Hoyle Street which is still standing though no longer in use for religious worship. As an indication as to how church attendances have declined, the surroundings of the length of Bewsey Road contained the following churches over about the last 100 years from Folly Lane to the end of Bewsey Street and Foundry Street junction; All Saint's Mission (Chapel of Ease to St Paul's) - Hoyle S
  9. Hi Everyone I hope you all had a Merry Christmas but am glad that things have returned to what passes for normality. Some of you may remember I have a former incarnation as a Man from the Pru covering a large portion of the old Town Centre round Lovely Lane and Old Bewsey a lot of which has now disappeared. I am also interested in old Warrington Churches and wondered if anyone knew whether there was an extant photograph of the Methodist Chapel on Bewsey Road which stood where the Co - op Funeral Care place is now and adjacent to the old Nurses Home at the side of Bewsey Terrace? Al
  10. Agree with Cleo - Do they still have obituaries? - I'm still waiting to see mine... Peridot
  11. On an entirely tongue in cheek basis if we had not given women the vote then we may not have had T as PM and also possibly heading towards May as PM. I intend no disrespect to Emily Davison who died yards away from my grandfather at Epsom in 1913. Neither PM was/would be an ally of the poor as is now being rolled out in the Welfare Changes beginning on 1/4. It's all about equality and diversity in local authorities and the more they can show they are doing this then the better their results on audit and therefore in compliance with league tables will be... Peridot
  12. Knight Commander. Peridot
  13. Sid - I don't know the exact procedure but you could check with the Masonic Hall in Winmarleigh Street or contact the HQ of Freemasonry whose details you may be able to get by google. I had the same problem with my late father's masonic jewels etc and as I never fancied the Masons just contacted another member of the Lodge which was then extant and was told to return them and later found out they were given to another member of the Lodge as and when he achieved the equivalent rank. Come to think of it I don't recall ever getting a similar certificate... Peridot
  14. I thought hoists too or for pulling the blind up... Peridot
  15. I have heard another saying about Tom Bowe's much too crude to post on here... Peridot
  16. Very interesting thanks Algy and it is a copy of the booklet you have posted that I am trying to get hold of. Peridot
  17. I don't know the physics of the strength of the hulls Davy but some of the WW1 vessels ventured as far as the Baltic and were classed 100+A1 at Lloyds. I think the Baltic was only allowed in the Summer months but I believe they were as durable as steel and did not suffer from rusting until there was wear on the outer concrete encasing the iron framework and then obviously that would begin to rust when it was exposed. See concreteships.org Peridot
  18. Yes the photographs are of WW2 vessels of which many were built again due to steel shortages and the speed with which they could be built. None were built at Fidler's Ferry so I don't know much about them as there isn't a Penketh connection. The MSC Company owned and operated a lot and they tended to be identified by numbers rather than names - all the WW1 vessels were named and pre - fixed "Crete". Construction of the WW1 vessels was of two types - concrete being poured into a monolithic mould to form the hull or the fabrication of ferro - concrete components individually which were then join
  19. I don't know about a concrete barge at Ellesmere Port Tracey but if there is the chances are it would be one built during the Second World War which was another story altogether... I'm sure you will find the book of interest and even the concrete boats at Fidler's Ferry get a mention!!... There are a couple of flats at the Ellesmere Port Museum but neither are under sail - I think one of them is called the Mossdale. If you are ever back up this way I'll take you to see the remains of the Eustace Carey - there is a photo of it intact at Spike Island under Harry Arnold's photos on the Scars
  20. The last two flats were the Santa Rosa and the Eustace Carey the burnt out remains of the latter being at Spike Island. They were known as Jigger Flats because of their ketch rigging, although the last vessel built there was I think a lightship called the ??? Jebb in 1906 ish... Peridot
  21. I'm trying to get hold of a copy of their brochure and description of their building technique if anyone knows where I can borrow one...? Peridot
  22. One of the three concrete barges built at Fidler's Ferry called the Cretecove is still partially intact in Norway Davy and you will find it's story in one of the Vol 7's of the SCARS Newsletters. They were built to combat a shortage of steel at the end of the First World War and a total of 54 were built along with 12 concrete tugs. Some were surprisingly long lasting and at least one survived in use until post WW2. Several remains exist of hulks around the coast and in the sense of longevity they were a success. However the method of construction was abandoned when steel became freely availabl
  23. Contact Sankey Canal Restoration Society or look through Schooner Port by Hubert Starkey Tracey - some history and list of vessels at the back. One of my interests is the building of concrete barges at Fidler's Ferry c1918 by Concrete Seacraft Ltd. Peridot
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