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  1. At their monthly meeting in Stockton Heath on Thursday 19th June Warrington Amnesty group members are marking the anniversary of China?s violent crackdown in 1989 on pro-democracy protestors in Tiananmen Square by sending messages to the Chinese ambassador in London to remind him that in China the Tiananmen Square mothers are not allowed to lay roses in the Square. With only a few weeks to go before the Beijing Olympics AI is keen to remind people there is a side of modern China that the Chinese Authorities do not want people to see. Across the UK Amnesty members have been showing their solidarity with the bereaved mothers who are stopped from commemorating the death of their loved ones People in China cannot speak out about human rights abuses there without fear of reprisals, but we can and must. China executes something in the region of 22 people each day for a wide range of offences, most of which are non-violent. Speaking out about human rights is not intended to diminish the pride the Chinese people have for hosting the games but it would be offensive to the victims if we are not prepared to speak out on their behalf. If you would like to be involved please Tel: 01925 268871 or email benkin64@talktalk.net
  2. That's fine. I probably should have said "man-made global warming".
  3. After seeing some of the posts on this, I thought it would be interesting to take a poll on it.
  4. Nothing against you Paul, though, and I quite enjoyed meeting Sue as well. Do tell her that. She was quite looking forward to working with me on the parish council and disappointed that neither of us made it. I plan to continue attending meetings when I can nonetheless. Perhaps she we do the same, and we can see each other there.
  5. Yes, that's politics for you. Radicals are always complaining about liberals and vice versa, but they need each other nonetheless. Unfortunately too few realize it. Liberalism needs a radical edge to wake it up, and the Greens could use the moderating influence, and professionalism of the Lib/Dems.
  6. Your smoke filled room or mine? Oh yea, we don't do smoke. But seriously, I'd love to meet you some time.
  7. How about against a Lib/Green alliance, which would become more than the sum of its parts, because it might then truly be able to attract core Labour by becoming the new progressive?
  8. Yes, this kind of reminds me of 1968 in the US when Nixon got elected. People were unhappy that the government too far right, so they went right. Out of the frying pan and into the fire.
  9. Where are the parish council results?
  10. Call me on 01925 211962 or 07815 901084 if you are interested. You don't have to vote for me, and no politics will be discussed against your will.
  11. When I hear this I am reminded of the system that would make this practical for any of us and help a lot with democratic involvement. We need the rank voting scheme that they have in Australia. You rank the candidates in order of preference. With that system you could even vote for yourself or anyone else you think is better than the ones on the ballot as first choice, and still not lose your vote. The way it works then is that nobody wins until they get over 50% of the votes. If no candidate has over 50% the last place candidate is thrown out and their votes translated to the elector's second choice. Continue until somebody has over 50%. If your second choice candidate gets thrown out, you vote gets transferred to your 3rd choice, etc.. No need even for parties, anyone with enough signatures gets on the ballot, every other eligible person is an acceptable write-in.
  12. You go Chrissy. My aunt and uncle were incredibly strict were my cousins, and they both ended up in trouble with the law. http://www.empowermentresources.com/info2/childrenlearn-long_version.html
  13. Gladly. It is at our website, which like our party is growing every day. http://www.warringtongreenparty.org
  14. It's on the 27th at 2:00.
  15. This book really gave me perspective on the issue. I highly recommend it. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hot-Topic-Tackle-Global-Warming/dp/0747593957/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208300000&sr=8-1 It's concise and not expensive, and will convince you that the problem is real and urgent, but very much solvable without destroying our quality of life or making us feel guilty of every minor infraction we make. I particularly like the wedges approach. Put together enough gradual net improvement by 2050, and the problem is solved. Of course, you people are right. Carbon isn't a poison. We don't have to get rid of all of it, we just have to get things down to the right balance. We need to stay below 450 ppm to keep the rise under 2 degrees. Mild bad things happen at 2 degrees, but much worse happens at around 3 degrees. We are presently at 430 ppm. It is urgent that we act now, but the solutions are all within present day technology.
  16. Yes, it may well be the future, but battery electric and plug-in hybrids are the best present day solutions. One problem with hydrogen is that you still have to get the hydrogen from somewhere, which makes it in effect end up to be just another form of electric power. Battery electric, on the other hand is old and simple technology that works now, and makes a quite substantial net improvement now. And as we gradually convert more of out electricity to renewable, it gets better and better. It's not just for people who can afford BMWs either. The G-Wiz is made and was first popularized in India.
  17. Nothing is perfect, but electric is pretty consistently rated as the gold standard, both in CO2 reduction and especially in cleaning up urban air. Read for example David Sandalow's Freedom from Oil. See also http://www.DrivingTheFuture.com/97pct.htm . Furthermore the additional advantage even of just "transferring the problem to the power station" is that they have the capability of reducing car use by break the car overuse chain. I'd much prefer walking or cycling next to one than next to a car with an exhaust pipe. [ 15.04.2008, 19:20: Message edited by: Shelley ]
  18. Yes, I agree. There are far better solutions. See for example http://www.metimes.com/Technology/2008/01/24/israels_electric_car_will_cut_oil_needs/7949/ .
  19. Probably the best way to find out about us if you can't come to the walk is to come along to our meeting this Monday. No need to join. We are a very friendly group and everyone is welcome. I suppose I can't buy you a drink, because that would be treating, but there's sure to be plenty of good discussion and answers to your questions. Meetings are held at 7:00 pm every 3rd Monday of the month in the back room of the Bull?s Head Public House on Church Street in Warrington. [ 15.04.2008, 08:54: Message edited by: Shelley ]
  20. Try http://www.evuk.co.uk/ .
  21. We Greens are working on it, and will probably soon get something up in this forum. In the mean time I'd like to invite you to check out some of the accomplishments of Greens in other councils. Oxford - http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/3361 Kirklees - http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/3356 Norwich - http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/3360
  22. Anyone know if anything has come of this UN Parliamentary Assembly idea? It sounds like it may be closer to what some of you are looking for. http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2007/04/24/no-more-ventriloquists/
  23. You might find these interesting. www.fluoridealert.org http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7319752042352089988
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