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  1. Lord Adonis is urging Lib Dem voters to vote Labour in constituencies where they don't stand a chance of winning because, he says, the Lib Dems and Labour have more in common.

     

    Has he heard about Warrington? OK, the Lib Dem-Tory council may not be the best under the sun, but you have to admit the Lib Dems and Tories have been getting on pretty well together. And our local Labour lads seem to hate them both.

     

    I don't go for this tactical voting. If you're Lab, vote Lab. If you're Tory vote Tory, if you're Lib Dem, vote Lib Dem (if you can get down off the fence!). If you can't make up your mind, or don't think much of any of them, don't vote at all.

    Interesting thing is there is a tactical reason for this even if they felt there was no difference between the two. Labour are the underdogs, and it's in the Lib Dems interest for the election to be close in order to get a hung parliament. But the Warrington Lib Dems are so over invested in this that they are totally out of touch with reality.
  2. Shelly

     

    Don?t quite understand what you?re saying; if it?s not going to be electric what is it?

    The short answer is, I don't know. Might be electric, but quite different from present battery powered ones. Might be more indirectly electric like hydrogen. My point is that I don't think present style EVs should be critiqued as if they were intended to be the ultimate future in transportation. They need to be seen as a present day answer to an unacceptable transportation system. Driving petrol cars is like everyone burning their own rubbish on the street and paying terrorists for the fuel to ignite it.
  3. I don't actually think EVs are the long term solution. I think they are the short term solution. That's one thing that annoys me about the governments plans with regards to them. They are too sluggish. EVs are the quick and imperfect way to get away from oil dependence and clean up our in your face pollution now, not something to faze in in 50 years time. You know why the G-wiz got developed in India? Because they simply banned petrol cars in certain cities. An instant market for EVs was there. If people wanted to drive in certain areas, they had to have an EV. While I'm not so sure I would recommend anything as draconian as that, the attitude needs to be taken that this is today's solution, not some lofty futuristic one. After all EVs are old technology. The earliest cars were electric.

     

    Watch "Who killed the electric car."

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39K36Rw7LYc&feature=related

     

    The charging infrastructure is dead easy even for people who don't have at home facilities. London has plenty of public charging points. You just plug in when you park on the street. There are special parking places with little posts with plug points in them. Cold places have had infrastructure for EVs for years in major parking lots. Years ago when I thought about applying for a job in Duluth the scare story I was told was that they had plug in points in all the parking lots there. That was a sign of how cold it was, because people needed them to plug in engine warmers, because otherwise their cars might not start up in the winter. EVs have computer systems to keep them from overcharging, so you don't forgot to charge them, because you just leave them plugged in whenever you are not using them.

  4. Shelley, in places like Norway and Finland, tyres with built in metal studs are readily available. They are (as far as I know) illegal to use on the highways over here due to the damage they cause to tarmac roads. Not a problem when the roads are iced up for 5 months a year but when it only happens once in a blue moon and lasts no more than 3 weeks as of late, I doubt they would catch on. Plus the cost is very high!!
    Too bad you can't just screw them in like you do with track shoes. The ones you put in shoes aren't that expensive. Just lately discovered bags of extra ones here from having lost them and then bought new ones. But I guess it would take more than 6 per tire and get pretty fiddly. And the vaseline that you put in the holes when you take them out would certainly mess up the roads.
  5. There are some pretty decent looking all electric cars but they all tend to be hugely expensive and I think this might have something to do with the cost of the battery. Until a breakthrough occurs in battery technology the hybrid solution will be the most logical way forward.

     

    Those that argue power stations are just as damaging need to look at the bigger picture because fusion will ultimately solve that problem and when it does, we need the battery technology to have evolved and be in place to make use of this clean energy.

     

    Until that time, I think hybrid technology will be the biggest growth area driven by increasing prices at the pumps and at least most of the hybrids look quite normal.

     

    Bill :)

    The other solution that Renault and project better place seem to be going for is for you to own the car, but rent the batteries. The plan is for it to be like a mobile phone contract. That's what allows them to do the battery swapping. You buy miles like buy minutes on a mobile phone.
  6. Interesting thought: EVs wouldn't do any better in snow and ice - :?
    Probably not. My general remedy for snow and ice is to go slow and not do anything sudden. They are more efficient at low speeds than petrol cars, so that should be a plus in snow.

     

    Talking about ice and snow, my solution for running is to wear track spikes. It makes a world of difference. I few days ago I went out running in regular training shoes and was slipping all over the place. Next day I wore spikes and the cars were having trouble keeping up. Could we put spikes on car tires?

  7. Think my point is Shelley, that the imperitive is to reduce energy demand overall, as it's sustainability is becoming more problematic. Using your analogy, whether the rubbish is thrown on the street or on the tip; the amount of rubbish is increasing beyond sustainable levels, and the only solution ultimately is waste reduction. :?
    You are definitely right about that and what you are saying is important. The analogy is a good one in that way too.

     

    I just get tired of the there's no difference lines, which get us nowhere. Moving the problem to the power plant is an important first step. It cleans up our living area in the same way that putting rubbish in the bin does. It gives some chance for reducing car use, because more people would walk or cycle if they didn't have to breath exhaust while doing so. Plus there is economy of scale at a power plant. Can you imagine putting the kind of scrubbers they have a Fiddlers Ferry on a car?

     

    You are very right, but at the same time it is very important to not sacrifice the good in search of the perfect. (one of my favourite Obama quotes) Having campaigned for Democratic Party in the states for a number of years I know all too much about the there's no difference lines. For example, there was a difference between Gore and Bush, still is, and if there hadn't been so many people saying there was no difference (perhaps a hundred or so in Florida) the invasion of Iraq might have not happened. Naysayers may give themselves a great sense of superiority, but they are the enemies of the progress they pretend to support. We never learn. The same thing is going on this country right now, and it's a good thing only if you support the Tories.

     

    About EVs looking goofy, the main reason for this is the need to start at the low end, because people will be hesitant about investing a lot of money in new technology figuring something better will be out next year. But when I actually looked carefully at Renault's site, only one of the cars looked goofy to me, the low end neighbourhood vehicle one. The largest one looked like a pretty normal car and the compact Zoe practically looks like a sports car.

  8. Just saw the new Renault ad, for it's new range of electric cars. Seems to be claiming that they don't cause pollution - but instead of fumes coming out of an exhaust, don't the fumes come out a chimney at the power station instead? :?
    So why not just throw your rubbish on the street? It's only transferring the problem to the landfill to put it in the bin.

     

    Also what you are saying is only partly true. Even with present energy mix, going to electric cuts the pollution in half according to even the most conservative of analyses. Okay, that's no better than LPG, but the advantage is that it is flexible, represents diversification, and will improve.

     

    Lovely advert. It's about time the car companies started marketing EVs seriously before making claims that there's no market for them. Their ZOE quite appeals to me. Looks a lot like GM's old EV1. They claim they will be affordable. I wonder what they mean by that.

  9. Suppose a battery exchange at garages could work but even if a standard one size fits all approach were to be used, what would you get charged given the variability of battery life?

     

    With petrol, at least if you fill up, you have a rough idea of how far that would take you but with a fully charged battery, how far you?ll get depends on it?s age and condition.

     

    Bit more thought needed on this one. :roll:

     

    Bill :)

    This is exactly Project Better Place's plan.

     

     

    The trick is, you own the car and lease the battery. It's a plan inspired by mobile phones. You buy miles. The swap is a bit more elaborate than filling a tank, but keep in mind that with 100 mi/charge you only need it for long trips.

  10. Any Iranians in Warrington? I'm hosting a discussion about recent events in Iran at the Unitarian Chapel on Cairo Street at 3 pm on the 28th of June. All are invited. I would especially like to hear privately from any Iranians would like to come and give us your perspective on what's going on.

     

    For those who haven't been following it, Rachel Maddox can give you an overview of just how big the news is.

     

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#31416478

  11. Two things were absent from the equation them days Lucy: junk food and lack of exercise; they could simply tax bad nutritional foods and create a sports/fitness culture in all schools. :wink:
    The problem with this is that no two nutritionists can agree on what's healthy food.
  12. Interesting hearing peoples' stories about the war. Made me try to think what my family was doing.

     

    I think my father's father fought in it, but I don't know any details, because he died of cancer when my father was 4. My mother's father I think was in the military somewhat before the war as a poor Hungarian immigrant to the US out of work, but I think he was out of the military by the time the war started. But I think his job in the shipyards of Newport News, Virginia was connected in some way with the war. My Grandmother's baby sister who was born in 1913 in Hungary has a few vague memories of soldiers at the house in connection with the war.

     

    I know a lot more about my families connections with the 2nd world war. Dad really wanted to go, but was 4F (physically disqualified) because the effects of a childhood illness looked like TB on the xray. My mother, however, got veteran status from her membership in the Coast Guard SPARs, the special wartime women's branch of the Coast Guard set up to do the usual peacetime Coast Guard activities while the men became part of the navy. She was a clerk, so we always joked that she shot a typewriter during the war. Her brother, my uncle, was a bit higher up. He was in the army core of engineers, and became by the end a lieutenant colonel. He probably didn't risk his life much either, so we're all a bunch of wimps.

     

    Then again, my mother's family back in Hungary, my great aunt who stayed behind, great grandmother, etc. definitely had their share of adventures in WW2. I visited my great aunt a couple of years ago, and it was not pleasant going through the family tree getting the same answer over and over again of what happened to various relatives. Killed by the nazis, died on the march, died in the camps, and she didn't want to talk about the details. She managed to get a false ID from someone and to hide in a Christian house in exchange for teaching the children.

  13. Lib Dems are also into restorative justice whenever possible. This website seems to cover it pretty well.

     

    http://www.restorativejustice.org/

     

    Roughly speaking, the idea is about repairing the harm done rather than punishment. An eye for an eye makes two blind men. The idea of it occurred to me long before I learned the word for it when I watch the trial of the drunk driver who killed my sister. I found myself not really that interested in how much he was made to suffer for it. All I really wanted from him was for him to bring her back. He couldn't do that, but it seemed it would be far better than simply ruining another life for him to somehow be required to do some equal good for society. Admittedly there are practical details to be worked out, and it isn't always possible, but restorative justice seems to have worked out the details for at least some kinds of crimes, and they boast a very low re-offending rate.

     

    I didn't see it like that at the trial of the bloke who murdered my wife Shelley. I wamnted him to be swinging from the end of a rope and screaming in agony for the hurt he caused me and my 2 year old son. Hurt which still continues (albeit in a lesser state) 20 years later.

    I am really sorry for your pain, but would his suffering have really eased it. I know I'm talking fantasy here, but if there was a way he could have brought her back, I can't believe you wouldn't have preferred it. Okay that's not possible, but in restorative justice victims are involved and given a lot more support than in the present system. It is not necessarily soft on crime either. In your case righting the wrong would have been far tougher than the sentence he had. And although a show painfully death would probably not be an option, as a victim, you would have had a large say in it. I don't think they are really up to that kind of serious offense in their applications of restorative justice, but if they were, perhaps he could be required to save a life and pay for all the psychological help you and your son needed to get over the pain, or maybe even find you a new wife.
    Unfortunately, the liberal do gooders felt it was right to transfer him to an open prison after 11 years so that he could be "rehabilitated and re-integrated into society" unfortunately he didn't appear to want that and went out and murdered another young woman with kids.....
    Sounds like the result of a lot of bureaucratic one size fits all thinking.

     

    My solution would have eased the pain a long time before that could happen.

     

    Killers of any discription; be they murderers, drunk driving killers or anything else (accidents aside of course) do not deserve a second chance of any sort and should die like their victims. It might well make two blindmen as you put it, but better a dead and blind killer than one who gets out and does it again because he can see what he's doing!

    I think it is important to make the distinction between protection of the public and punishment as revenge. Your guy quite likely was a unreformable nutcase, who maybe should have been locked up permanently in a padded cell where he couldn't harm anyone. Yes, killing him might be cheaper, but you're on a slippery slope with that. Who that's deemed a burden to society goes next?

     

    But I totally agree with you about the importance of prevention. We need better policing. We need better mental health support. We need to create the kind of society that doesn't create as many of the kind of pressures that lead people to crime in the first place. We need to get out of Pottervill.

  14. How many prisoners have been let out on early release, only to murder again? :? I guess the re-offending rate blows a hole in the restorative justice arguement. :roll::wink:
    Not at all. True restorative justice is known to cut down re-offending practically to nothing. I'm not an expert, so I'd have to look up the statistics, but that is supposed to be one of its biggest selling points. Prison, on the other hand, is the biggest crime school in the world.
  15. Lib Dems are also into restorative justice whenever possible. This website seems to cover it pretty well.

     

    http://www.restorativejustice.org/

     

    Roughly speaking, the idea is about repairing the harm done rather than punishment. An eye for an eye makes two blind men. The idea of it occurred to me long before I learned the word for it when I watch the trial of the drunk driver who killed my sister. I found myself not really that interested in how much he was made to suffer for it. All I really wanted from him was for him to bring her back. He couldn't do that, but it seemed it would be far better than simply ruining another life for him to somehow be required to do some equal good for society. Admittedly there are practical details to be worked out, and it isn't always possible, but restorative justice seems to have worked out the details for at least some kinds of crimes, and they boast a very low re-offending rate.

  16. My parents lived in Penketh, my mother decided to give birth in a nursing home in Liverpool. She visited the nursing home, I was born and promptly returned to live in Warrington. Hence it is fair to say I have lived in Warrington ALL my life - but I am not a woolyback because I was born in Liverpool.

    Just cos a cat has its kitten in the oven don't make em biscuits. :)
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