Cleopatra Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Judge Peter Bowers - y'all remember him? He was the idiot who described a burgler as heroic causing a public outcry and a series of complaints against him. Well he has only been gone and done it again. - A paedophile caught with indecent pictures of children he made on his pc was on a suspended sentence when caught again with more indecent pictures of children on his pc. This 'bleeding heart' judge has given him a second suspended sentence because he would suffer badly if he went to prison. So what!? Time this judge was pensioned off methinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeborn John Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 I read yesterday that there's a motorist driving around Warrington who has 36 points on his licence without being banned. Thirty six! Why is he allowed to carry on driving? Because it would cause hardship if he was grounded. Must have been one of Judge Bowers cases methinks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianR Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 This is going to sound like a defence and in part it is, but i come across judges daily as part of my job and its a little more complex than the average mail reader thinks. There are sentencing guidelines. This limits what a judge can and cannot do. Gets it wrong, the individual appeals (legal aid costs, appeal court costs etc), under does it the AG appeals (ditto). Point to note. The courts are skint. Either way, a judge being regularly appealed is finished. I have come across judges who made decisions solely on the basis of avoiding being appealed. This is a culture within the judiciary rather than that of the individual judge, I would rather have a go at the politicians who influence these guidelines rather than the individual, although I readily concede that I have come across judges somewhat way away from reality and arguably promoted above their ability. I suspect this issue has arisen as a result of a bit of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 "Average mail Reader" Like it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianR Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 That wasn't a dig at anyone on here before anyone says owt. It was just a general observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 A good observation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Good dig also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Perhaps "the politicians" should set minimum, as well as maximum tariffs in their guidelines to the Judiciary? Or could it be the case, that they don't want more prisoners, and thus the expense of keeping them?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 So easy for the Mail to find one case, how many cases are dealt with daily by Judges, The Mail find one case and try to pass the system off as crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Well perhaps the situation may ease, if legal aid is no longer available for appeals?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Of that you can be sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Might sort Abu out?!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Might not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 "Average mail Reader" Like it!!! Bit sexist!, Mr AdrianR, what about the average femail reader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Sure you'll be contributing to Abu's next legal appeal Kije; you could even organise a whip round?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 What ever gave you that idea Obs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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