Bazj Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Damn - I didn't think about rampant dendrophobia and don't forget the "dolphin friendly tuna" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 it is amazing that we can extradite British Citizens to the US (a country which does still have the death penalty) yet we can't kick out foreigners who are terrorists because the country he will be set to may not give him a fair trial!! Only in luvvie Britain! But the Yanks will not allow any of their citizens to be extradited to other countries. The Meredith Kircher trial is due to be reopened in Italy but America is expected to block any move to get Amanda Knox back in the dock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 But the Yanks will not allow any of their citizens to be extradited to other countries. The Meredith Kircher trial is due to be reopened in Italy but America is expected to block any move to get Amanda Knox back in the dock. As she has already been tried , convicted and then had that conviction overturned I wouldn't blame the seppoes for not letting them have a mulligan - as I believe golfists call it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Aside from from the "don't do as we do, do as we say" position of the No1 super-power; the US constitution would not allow for a US citizen to be tried twice for the same crime (unlike UK law); so extraditition is unlikely in the Kirchner case. They could of course try extrordinary rendition, using their US Mafia contacts?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bazj Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Terror suspect and Broadmoor patient Haroon Aswat should not be extradited to US, the European Court of Human Rights has ruled. The extradition request was turned down by the court on human rights grounds. Aswat's probable incarceration in a high security prison in the United States could "exacerbate his condition of paranoid schizophrenia". You couldn't make this nonsense up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Clearly everyone's out to get him or him ! No surprise Baz, last night's Dispatches on CH4 showed the utter chaos at the UKBF, with 50,000 cases in their backlog up to 12 years old, mainly due to HR appeals, lost files, and lost applicants. It won't be cured until we exit the ECHR and bring in a system of instant deportation once over-stayers are caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 What would be the likelihood of a mentally ill US Citizen being sent east across the Atlantic if the UK courts wanted to put him on trial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Would have thought the incentive in these cash strapped times, would be maximise the number of prisoners going out to the US or elsewhere (they can pay for their upkeep) and minimising the numbers coming in (thus saving us money). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Are you going to answer Nicks question Obs? Ok I will, the answer would be no chance, The Americans would not extradite a mentally ill prisoner, but don't let that stop you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 What would be the likelihood of a mentally ill US Citizen being sent east across the Atlantic if the UK courts wanted to put him on trial? don't care.... he doesn't belong here.... they are playing the mental card.... get shut and send him off with his equally odious associate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 .... they are playing the mental card.... two questions 1) When did you qualify in psychiatry? 2) When did you carry out your examination if the patient? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Q> Is he a British citizen? If not, they can have him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 Yes he is, born in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 two questions 1) When did you qualify in psychiatry? 2) When did you carry out your examination if the patient? 1) 1991 2) I haven't but a murderer is a murderer and a terrorist is a terrorist whether they are mental or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 I thought he was only a terror suspect? And isn't he supposed to be a double agent working for British Intelligence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 16, 2013 Report Share Posted April 16, 2013 I guess if he's a schizophrenic, he could be classed as a double agent?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Following - UK citizen accused of committing crimes outside the US - oh and, in case it makes a difference to some people he's white and has a non-Islamic name "A Royal Military Police Territorial Army sergeant facing extradition to the US over fraud charges said he would rather kill himself than leave the UK.David McIntyre, 41, from Hyde, Greater Manchester is accused of overcharging for security services in Baghdad, Iraq.Mr McIntyre, who denies the charges, says he has post traumatic stress. The Ministry of Defence (MoD) has not commented.The Home Office said his extradition is on hold while his case was considered.Mr McIntyre faces eight counts of fraud relating to security services provided during his time running Quantum Risk in Baghdad, between December 2008 and July 2009."Mr McIntyre said he was serving at Camp Bastion in Afghanistan when he was brought home to the UK over the $100,000 fraud claims......." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Sounds like a Scottish name though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Don't tell me that the CIA are actually accounting for their spending these days?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 Don't tell me that the CIA are actually accounting for their spending these days?! It's the influence of them Scientologists and all that auditing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 17, 2013 Report Share Posted April 17, 2013 We've truly hit hard times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 By abolishing the death penalty the law demonstrated its contempt for the innocent majority in favour of the "rights" of the perpetrator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Sinse the death penalty was re introduced in America, 1 in 7 death row inmates have been freed on appeal. the murder rate in the US is 6 times that of Britain and 5 times that of Australia. Neither country has the DP. Texas has twice the murder rate of Wisconsin, a state that doesn't have the DP. Texas and Oklahoma have historically executed the most number of DR inmates, yet in 2003 their state murder rates increased, and both have murder rates higher than the national average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 I am not American Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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