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Burtonwood Air Base - old video footage

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Thanks Dizzy.  Brings back memories of laying in the grass at the end of the runway, all the way from the B-17's to the Super Forts.  Had to inspect the grass carefully first though.

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Thanks Dizzy.  Brings back memories of laying in the grass at the end of the runway, all the way from the B-17's to the Super Forts.  Had to inspect the grass carefully first though.

Stallard great to hear you'r still around. :)

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Thanks Algy, just chillin', but keeping my eye on y'all. :lol:  :lol:

Always great to know the old timers are still watching :wink:

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Thanks Algy, just chillin', but keeping my eye on y'all. :lol:  :lol:

 

Hiya Stallard.  So great to see you on here again and I've missed you.   Maybe we should call you 'stalker' from now on though :lol:

 

I thought of you the other day actually when I was walking through the snow with my dog up a road you once mentioned living on around here and wondered what you were upto these days. 

 

I guess you must have got some rain though since you were last on here .... got any snow yet ha ha

 

Glad you enjoyed the video and that it brought back some memories for you :wink:

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Hi Dizzy,  Just as exuberant as ever I see - God bless you.  Caught a quick view of the old town center in that video, brought back New Year's Eve feelings.    Sorry, no  snow, back to playing golf in shorts every day, but getting down into the 60's next week.   Never miss a Man U.  or Everton or Wigan soccer game so I get to see your weather - I'm not that tough anymore !!

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Hi Dizzy,  Just as exuberant as ever I see - God bless you.  Caught a quick view of the old town center in that video, brought back New Year's Eve feelings.    Sorry, no  snow, back to playing golf in shorts every day, but getting down into the 60's next week.   Never miss a Man U.  or Everton or Wigan soccer game so I get to see your weather - I'm not that tough anymore !!

I envy your climate Stallard but not the hurricanes etc. we have a blanket of snow about 2" deep over everything this morning 0613hrs, hopefully  if the met office is correct we should have rain this later  and that will clear it away, that of course will mean floods for some poor soles, can't win can we. :unsure:

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Hi Wavydavy,

 

I never found Mike Mcgrath.

 

Has he definately gone living in Winsford?

 

Or is he still living at his old address at Orford?

 

I'd love to get in touch with him Davy.

 

Malc

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Hi Peter T,

 

Thanks for the nice comments about my website www.HistoricAviationMilitary.com

 

Today I found a aircraft re-fuelling trigger nozzle made of some kind of brass or bronze alloy that hasn't rusted in any way at Burtonwood airfield.

 

I'm going to put a photo of it on my website ASAP but it has the words USA on it and other words and these are:

 

Barnes Manufacturing Co. Mansfield Ohio / 41-727-P

 

Regards

 

Malc

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Hi Wavydavy,

 

I never found Mike Mcgrath.

 

Has he definately gone living in Winsford?

 

Or is he still living at his old address at Orford?

 

I'd love to get in touch with him Davy.

 

Malc

Malc, last i heard was Winsford , but i know his old address was 84 West Avenue when he lived with his mother. He did have a workshop off Sharp Street which he even got the post office to call Baker's Lane because otherwise his premises would have had no  mailing address . He was repairing & servicing fruit machines. I have even been to address a couple of times in the last 5 years but it's been locked up both times. From what i can gather he was using the  business name MJM SERVICES. 

 

Best wishes Dave.

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That was interesting, ta for posting!

 

Does anyone know why Burtonwood was selected.  Why not an airfield closer to the sea where the airctaft could be off loaded.and transported easier

 

How come it did not continue life as a airfield, with its huge runway I thought it make sence?

 

What was the purpose of the other airfield in Applton?

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The US airfield was built at Burtonwood because -  a) It is a large flat expanse of land enabling long runways to be built. Strategically at the time it was far enough from Germany to make it difficult for the German airforce to carpet bomb. c) Close to the port of Liverpool to allow crated aircraft to be transported by ship, then moved by road to the base. d) In 1940 the RAF built a airfield on the Burtonwood site, consequently the initial groundwork had been done. I'm sure there are many more complex reasons that i can't think of at 0700hrs on this friday morning. :wink:

Coffee, this site will provide you with a massive amount of information.

http://www.enginehistory.org/raf_burtonwood.shtml

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Coffee, there was some talk in the 60/70s  that an airport was on the cards to be built on the site , but due to mining subsidence that was shelved.  The former main runway  was used to build on top of as the carriageway of the M62 between Winwick & the Widnes junctions.

 

Wikipedia has an article about Burtonwood.

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Thanks for the links. I used to work on a farm on the edge of the airfield. Started there just as the camp was closing.

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My father worked at Burtonwood air base, in the stores.  It was probably during the first half of the 1950s.  He used to tell a story that a certain amount of stock couldn't be reconciled with the written records, for some reason.  One of the American officers instructed him to take some men and dig a hole with a mechanical digger, then bury the offending material.  Apparently, included in the latter was a quantity of gold-cased wrist watches, brand new.  My father was disgusted at such a waste, given that everything was in very short supply here so soon after the war.  He said he was tempted to pocket a couple of these watches, but he was very honest and wouldn't have done.  I wonder if any of this material ever came to light during recent construction work?

 

My own first experience of the base was at the end of 1969.  I'd recently left school, and for some reason decided to cycle out to take a look at the base.  Unfortunately, I left it a few months too late to see fixed-wing aircraft using the main runway, although the latter was still there.  It ran across Burtonwood Road, and had level-crossing gates like a railway which would have been closed against the traffic (such traffic as there was) if an aircraft were taking off or landing.  This is now the route of the motorway, and the present road has been elevated over it.  Before the motorway was constructed, the runway was sometimes used for drag racing and other motor sports, and often for people learning to drive on a Sunday morning.  Now, it's hard to believe how remote the area around the base felt.  The land was so level, and you could see for miles in all directions.  There were, in addition to the main runway, a lot of subsidiary runways which were disused and overgrown with weeds.  Everywhere, there were notices proclaiming that it was a prohibited place within the meaning of the Official Secrets Act, and that unauthorised persons entering the area would be arrested and prosecuted.  I used to trespass with my bicycle on the part of the base opposite the main buildings, and never got into any trouble.  At this time, 1969 -70, although fixed-wing aircraft no longer used the base, there were helicopters coming and going.  I believe they were Hueys, similar to those used in the Vietnam war.  Local air cadet squadrons also used the base for gliding lessons, launched by a jeep.  American servicemen and their families lived in a secure compound near the base, with lots of neat little prefabricated houses which must have been quite comfortable inside, although they weren't very big.  A green school bus used to take the children to school on the main part of the base.  I remember attending a couple of events there on the Fourth of July, to which local people were invited.  In the evening, there would be a bonfire and fireworks.  I recall standing beside the bonfire and listening to some Americans singing "America the Beautiful."  I reflected that it must be nice to believe in something so unquestioningly.  Anyway, it's hard to believe that all the base has disappeared, and been replaced by so many houses.

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Remember in the sixties the Burtonwood road from Sankey to the other side (which is now the M62) being closed when Vulcan bombers visited

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