wolfie Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Could kill her own son, simply for failing to memorise the koran, and then burn his body to get rid of any evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 One that has been indoctrinated, Religion can be bad for your health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Don't understand the religious aspect but why does anyone need to memorise something that's already written in a book. Do they get tested on it? Either way it appears that the murderer got life with a minimum of 17 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Don't understand why we allow "faith" schools in the first place, kids are supposed to be educated not indocrinated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I agree Obs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Don't understand why we allow "faith" schools in the first place, kids are supposed to be educated not indocrinated. Think this indoctrination was done at home Obs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Think it was "homework" , the kid was attending a Madrassa according to the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Could kill her own son, simply for failing to memorise the koran, and then burn his body to get rid of any evidence? The same could be asked about how any other parent could kill their own child Wolfie, or indeed how any person could kill any child, teenager or an adult etc. To be honest I have not read or heard a lot about this poor little lads death as it upsets me too much. To think that he was brutally beaten for many months for simply not being able to recite the words from a religious book at such a young age really upsets me. From the bits I have heard though it seems his mother was obsessed with his learning of the koran and she was also suffering from depression (or so they say). But I do have to question how the little boys father was cleared of not protecting him as I'm sure that if I had ever beaten our son my other half would NOT have stood by and let that happen and would have immediately noticed as would the rest of my family and friends (and no doubt his teachers too) and they would have done something about it. Three months is a very long time for no one to have noticed or done anything about it at all. Poor little boy and so very very sad indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Perhaps if the mother had memorised the koran she wouldn't have killed her son, and she definately wouldn't have burnt the body. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Good point Wolfie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Perhaps if the mother and the rest of these believers had been brought up with a secular education, we wouldn't have a topic to discuss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 It's not so much because he did not memorise the Qur'an (note the correct spelling) that his mother killed the boy but rather her insanity for surely she was mentally unstable. I know of no other parent who would beat their child to death for failing to memorise the Qur'an. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Religion can drive people to do crazy things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 But only where such people already have a propensity to be crazy anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Well, there's a hell of a lot of "crazy people" in the world then, and they're kicking off in Ulster, Pakistan, Burma and Nigeria, as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 And a riot coming to a street where you live soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 But not a "sectarian" one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 But crazies! Religion or no religion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeway60 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 If you're talking about indoctrination I can rememmber when I was nipper at school it was called Religious Instruction. When those in authority realised it could gave the game away a little it was renamed Religious Education...They marched us down to church every week and we were forced to listen to the most ludicrous mumbo-jumbo sermons from the holy man...We had to just accept in silence what he was preaching...no debate would be considered on pain of being caned...Islam is a modern religion but eventually it will go the way of other religions and considered to be an irrelevance in people's lives. Does anybody still worship the Sun God ? Nobody I know of anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Safeway, allow me to correct you. Islam is not a new religion as you suppose. Islam began circa 620AD when Allah through the Angel Gabriel spoke to the prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) revealing to him the verses now written in the Qur'an. Rather than going the way of other religions, as you suggested. Islam is still growing and spreading worldwide and hell will freeze over before Islam goes the way of other religions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I don't think he meant any offence Cleo, Islam is one of the Worlds younger religions to put it into context, and by saying that I do not mean ANY disrespect to the religion and those who choose to believe in it. Yes it is a growing religion but it is growing quickest in Countries with no education system and people are told to believe, they have no choice. Where people are given a choice religion tends to hold steady or drop. You are breaking the law in many Countries if you try to convert away from Islam to another religion including Egypt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I wasn't aware that Prophet muhammad was the founder of islam. According to what I've read he was only the last and final messenger of god and islam existed long before that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Might be wrong but did they not steal messengers from other religions, do they not say Jesus was a prophet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Religion is the opiate of the people, although here football has taken over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Wow, Obs quoting Karl Marx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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