observer Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Seems there's been an increase in cases of rickets amongst kids. They're not getting enough sun light apparently, but wern't they covering them in sun tan cream last time we had a Summer? What ever happened to free school milk - thought that had vitamin D in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Sounds like a lose lose situation we have. Risk the chances of major sunburn a skin cancer or cover up and risk getting rickets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 After trawling all the useless shop in Warrington trying to get xmas presents again for the past few days I think I now have rickets anyway that's another story and another topic. Regarding the increase in rickets in kids 'some' are putting it down to the fact that “kids are staying indoors playing on computers rather than going outside to kick a ball around” therefore not getting enough sun / vitamin D. I suppose they could also say that at school kids aren't getting as much outdoor time with shorter lunch and play times. But the NHS bods also say "However, it is important to highlight that this is not new research, but the opinion of these authors. The review did not look at the use of TV or computer games, and does not provide any new evidence of a link between these and rickets. The authors highlight the importance of sunlight to ensure that the body has enough vitamin D, but they also mention other risk factors for vitamin D deficiency, one of which is having dark skin. As the researchers point out, it is possible that the increase in cases of rickets reflects the changing ethnic mix in the UK." Oh heck and I bet you already knew that Obs and I am now the one responsible for turning this into another topic that will turn into immigration and 'darker' people by quoting one of the NHS's theories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Don't think it's a theory Diz, but scientific fact. Skin colour equates to the latitude on the planet that humans have evolved to adapt to. Tropical climes = more sun = more protection = more melanine = darker skin. This natural protection will prevent sufficient vitamin D absorbtion from weaker sunlight at higher latitudes. It's estimated that it takes around 20,000 years for skin colour to adapt to the level of sunlight at any given latitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Now there's a good business opportunity for some enterprising entrepeneur! Selling sunlamps to immigrants of ethnic races. WOW! why hasn't someone thought of that before now!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 What's an ethnic race? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 British 100m sprint! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Obs that is probably the funniest post you have made all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Wasn't ricketts something that blighted society a hundred years ago when their were no indoor games to play & when there were less coloured people in the country to distort the statistics? Wasn't ricketts blamed on poverty & malnutrition & proper vitamins at the time. I'm sure the same is true today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 What ever happened to free school milk - thought that had vitamin D in it? Nope. From the Dairy Council website - Link "There is very little vitamin D in milk and in fact only trace amounts and in the UK milk is not fortified with vitamin D." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Wasn't ricketts something that blighted society a hundred years ago when their were no indoor games to play & when there were less coloured people in the country to distort the statistics? Wasn't ricketts blamed on poverty & malnutrition & proper vitamins at the time. I'm sure the same is true today. You are quite correct Davy. Rickets was rife in the early 20th century for the reasons you stated, malnutrition, due to poverty, a poor diet and cramped and unhealthy living conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Must be the calcium factor then Inky; but I didn't "research it", just drank it at school - free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 calcium has nothing to do with Rickets either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 "Rickets is a softening of bones in children due to deficiency or impaired metabolism of vitamin D, phosphorus or calcium, potentially leading to fractures and deformity. Rickets is among the most frequent childhood diseases in many developing countries. The predominant cause is a vitamin D deficiency, but lack of adequate calcium in the diet may also lead to rickets (cases of severe diarrhea and vomiting may be the cause of the deficiency). Although it can occur in adults, the majority of cases occur in children suffering from severe malnutrition, usually resulting from famine or starvation during the early stages of childhood." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 I think you're milking the calcium bit Eagle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 There was no udder way to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Seems Inky didn't do the research! Niether did Thatcher the milk snatcher! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted December 16, 2012 Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Ok so Thatcher stole the milk from the schoolkids. How many changes of government has there been since and has any of them given the milk back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2012 Think the point I'm making, is that many things are brought in by Government for sound reasons, (EG: free school milk/meals; vaccintions; hospital hygene etc); then they begin work, and their original point and purpose gets lost, and they begin to be treated as an unecessary expenditure, and are ceased. Then the original problems begin to return - rickets, measles, hospital bugs etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 I wondered how long it would take for one of the usual suspects to blame Maggie. Pathetic Obs, truly pathetic :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Ricketts sounds similar to what Mrs Sid has. Her body cannot assimilate Calcium due to her parathyroid not working so she has to have calcium tablets and a Vitamin D supplement to keep her Calcium levels up. She was Only Diagnosed in the last few years but has had the condition all her life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Just a simple fact Asp, that's all. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted December 19, 2012 Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Just a simple fact Asp, that's all. :roll: No, just pathetic Obs :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2012 Certainly was "pathetic" on Maggie's part! :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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