Trust?

[observer]

Are there any institutions that you still trust? From Parliament and expenses claims, to the Press and criminal hacking, to the Church and child abuse; to the BBC and incompetance; to the Banks and greed; to the Police and alleged corruption, and now allegations that the Energy Companies have been fiddling the wholesale price.

[Dizzy]

Can't say I can think of any off the top of my head Obs but if you never trust anyone you will never be disappointed or let down

[Cleopatra]

Hows about - The Salvation Army?

[algy]

Don't know about institutions, but regarding the cases of sexual abuse it is almost without exception carried out by males very rarely women who are offenders!.

[Evil Sid]

Well I used to trust the mental institution before they elected them to parliament.

[inky pete]

Don't know about institutions, but regarding the cases of sexual abuse it is almost without exception carried out by males very rarely women who are offenders!.

 

It's almost always carried out by people close to the victim too - usually family members.

 

So the whole "stranger danger" thing is complete rubbish which just leads to kids being wrapped in cotton wool, not allowed to play out, and dying obese and early.

[Lt Kije]

Good post inky

[Bill]

And a good topic from Observer that certainly makes you think. Personally I’m with Diz in that you can’t go through life being distrustful of everyone. The vast majority of people are honest and it’s a relatively small minority that spoil things through greed or lack of consideration.

 

Bill

[observer]

But it's not specifically about "individuals" Bill; we're talking about institutions which can have corrupt cultures, although individuals contribute to that collective culture. How many MPs, Bankers etc, with the most honest of intentions, join an organisation and are then drawn into fold for fear of being odd man out?

[harry hayes]

Nothing has changed. T'was always thus. Just that everyone and everything gets scrutinised more. Quoted before "a frog is a beautiful creature, but when you dissect it, it dies".

 

I can say that with certainty about the police for example.

 

You pay your money..........

 

Happy days

[observer]

Well it seems, that bastion of example, Parliament; "are still at it". Dispatches tonight exposed how "the new rules" (brought in following the last expenses scandal) are being bent to maximise expenses by some MPs. EG: Instead of claiming exp relief on mortgage interest for second homes in London, they now claim for rental payments (allowed under the new rules). This has meant some renting out their own properties and renting a property nearby, just so they can claim expenses. Even a case of one MP renting a property from another MP. These are the people who have the audacity to call tax evaders, perhaps a case of envy rather than condemnation. As I suggested during the last fiasco: simple answer - fully furnished Halls of Residence (like Unis) or even Barracks (like the Army) all provided free of charge, thus no need to claim anything on expenses. If there is no basis for "a claim", there is no opportunity to fiddle.

[Peter T]

Personally, I think that trust is something that should be earned. And the level of trust depends on the relationship.

[observer]

Our whole modern economic and social fabric is based on "trust" - money!