observer Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Wonder if they've included an estimate for the costs of cleaning up an increase in fly tipping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Only if you actually print them off on paper A mere technicality, lovey, a mere technicality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Wonder if they've included an estimate for the costs of cleaning up an increase in fly tipping? Stop wondering. Pick up the phone and ask them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I see no councillors are posting on a subject that actually matters to people.... says it all really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 I see no councillors are posting on a subject that actually matters to people.... says it all really Wait until the possibility of voles is mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Wait until the possibility of voles is mentioned. Hey!, Mr Eagle, I've heard of 'Fly tipping' but 'Vole Tipping', now this sounds serious!!!. :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted December 15, 2012 Report Share Posted December 15, 2012 Don't eagles eat voles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 Geoff's doing his bit, collecting puppy poo off the tree branches!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted December 25, 2012 Report Share Posted December 25, 2012 BAH HUMBUG obs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Posted December 26, 2012 Report Share Posted December 26, 2012 how much will reducing bin collections save the council? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 how much will reducing bin collections save the council? Not much unless they reduce the collection staff by half. Otherwise they all still have to be paid every week, in which case where are the savings coming from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 It could end up costing more in a way. If your average bin wagon is full after say 300 bins and it takes about four hours it fill it and empty it then in an eight hour day it will make two trips to the dump. If the bins are emptied fortnightly then you must assume that each bin will contain twice as much rubbish so to empty 300 bins would still take the same amount of time but would entail four trips to the dump using that bit more fuel. Ok so they may save in that they will only be doing that trip once a fortnight so in effect the cost will be the same and the actual saving would then come from making some employees redundant and result in less wear and tear on bin wagons. That they would then have more wagons going round to cope with fly tipping is something that they can sort out at a later date and as for the increase in vermin from rubbish dumped in the street they would get extra revenue for their coffers from the pest control section of the council. well at least from the businesses in the area http://www.warrington.gov.uk/info/200614/pest_control/1021/pest_control_charges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 And it's not just the wagons fuel Sid, think of all the fuel that'll be needed on additional runs down to the local tip to sit in a bloody queue. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theinsider Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 how much will reducing bin collections save the council? About £1m quid I heard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 About £1m quid I heard! Without reducing staff numbers? - Rubbish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris1066 Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Without reducing staff numbers? - Rubbish! The cats out of the bag and it is now official policy. In the statement in the WG it implied that any reduction in services would fall on contractors ? Surely this is an opportunity to reduce the number of people employed by the council with all the long term expense of pensions etc that will fall on future tax payers. There is already a huge black hole in the funding of future public service pensions. Instead of fiddling around \wbc should grasp the nettle and do some long term planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 The cats out of the bag and it is now official policy. In the statement in the WG it implied that any reduction in services would fall on contractors ? Surely this is an opportunity to reduce the number of people employed by the council with all the long term expense of pensions etc that will fall on future tax payers. There is already a huge black hole in the funding of future public service pensions. Instead of fiddling around \wbc should grasp the nettle and do some long term planning. Very seasonal Boris, so you wish to see those lads on the refuse vehicles who work out in all kind of inclemenent weather conditions keeping our roads and streets clear of our houshold rubbish, out of work, if you feel the need to reduce wage/salary expenditure why not start at the top and work down, start cutting away the higher branches from the tree because if you keep chipping away at the trunk, the tree will eventually topple over and die!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 One day I went out to the shops and when I returned home the bin men were around emptying the bins. "Where's your bin luv?" one of them asked me. "I've been to the shop." I told him. "No... Where's your wheelie bin? he said. "I've wheelie been to the shop," I insisted. Every one's a gem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Another oldie but goodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Ditto! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Do a survey by all means but what will that achieve? Even if more people agreed they could manage, it wouldn’t make it right for those who can’t. It’s not a contest, it’s just plain and simple cutting of a basic public service and then using game show voting mentality to try and justify the decision. I think it’s an extremely sad reflection on our society when people take sides or be encouraged to criticise others over something as basic as the waste bin. Bill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Agree with you 100% Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 28, 2012 Report Share Posted December 28, 2012 Does anyone know where our Black Bin waste will now be going? In the December Exec Board meeting I believe one of the two contract tenders that had been submitted was appointed and that our black bin waste will now no longer be heading for Arpley Landfill but to somehwere else to be converted into fuel. That alone will apparently will save the council more money. (good that they have found somewhere 'cheaper' and that it wont be going to landfill now) But When it was going to Arpley the council were apparently having to pay around £64 per tonne for all our black bin waste to go there, that was to rise to £72 in 2013 and rise further in future years. How much will they now be paying to send it to 'wherever' to be converted to fuel anyone know ? Are the transportation costs to get it to either Apley or the new place paid by the council and if it is further away is that now costing more ? or is it collected locally by the external contractors. Who will benefit from the fuel that is mow going to be produced from our black bin waste and where does the fuel go and how? Do the council just pay less to send it there than they did at Arpley or do they get PAID an amount for it like they get for our blue bin recyclable waste. I believe the council receive just over £40 per tonne for everything that we put in our BLUE bins when that goes to the Shotton Material, Recovery Facility in Wales. Green Bin Waste goes to Kirby (do the council receive money in return for that too or do they have to pay to send it there?) I just wondered that's all as I couldn't find the answers anwhere and some of the info re the new waste contract (Dec 2012) for non-recyclables on their reports was said to be confidential. It's the little things in life that bug me and make me ponder wonder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 I guess the lack of replies means a 'no we don't know' either then ?.... or maybe just a 'shut up Dizzy' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I have to own up and say yes, I haven't a clue Dizzy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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