Evil Sid Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 I wondered how long it would be before the lawyers appeared on the scene. Seems they are queing up to sue all and sundry on behalf of the victims. They have to find something to do now that "the hook" has been deported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Is Peter Pan going to sue Captain Hook?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 What amazes me is that we have not YET! had a 'I had Jimmy Sa-Vile's love child' claim, mind you I suppose there's plenty of time yet. There almost was one but it was aborted, according to reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I see thats The incoming chief executive of the New York Times, Mark Thompson, is facing new questions over what he knew about the Savile paedophile scandal when he was director general of the BBC, amid apparent inconsistencies in his public statements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 The Crown Prosecution Service examined sexual assault claims involving four alleged victims of Jimmy Savile in 2009 following an investigation by Surrey police. On Monday, the CPS revealed for the first time that it reviewed assault claims involving more than one alleged victim while the Jim'll Fix It host was still alive. Three of the alleged victims were aged under 16, including two pupils at the Duncroft approved school in Surrey in the late 1970s and a girl at the Stoke Mandeville hospital, where Savile was a regular visitor. However, the investigation was dropped because none of the alleged victims would support a prosecution against Savile. "A file was submitted by Surrey police to the Crown Prosecution Service in 2009 after a complaint was made by a woman who said she had witnessed an indecent assault by Jimmy Savile in the 1970s. Police conducted further enquiries and as a result the file which was submitted to the CPS also referenced three further potential offences involving Jimmy Savile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Edwina Currie today defended her decision to allow Jimmy Savile to head up a taskforce driving reforms at Broadmoor hospital where he is accused of sexually assaulting patients. Savile, despite having no expertise in mental health, was given the job of chairman of the taskforce overseeing Broadmoor in 1988 after the hospital had been placed under direct control of the Thatcher government by currie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 The world should prepare for a big shock because there is still more to come out that will blow your socks off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 You mean Boris is really Jimmy's love child?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 No...... You are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lt Kije Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Eagle Jump on the boat, make a claim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 A television actor has been charged with the rape of a teenage boy. The actor, who has not been named, allegedly attacked the 14-year-old at a theatre in the London area. He is also accused of three other sex attacks and an "assault by beating" at a London school, Scotland Yard said. The actor will appear in court on 6 November Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 glad to see the "Sir" is being droped out of all the press reports now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 i would like some poster`s to read Suzanne Moore report in the The Guardian, Wednesday 24 October 2012 i would like to hear your constructive views on what she as to say up to now i think its the best to come out of this what do you think click here for the article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Very good article TD. As I have said previously, it is about the bigger picture. Society as a whole has mostly lost any values that it had. Apart from the sexual abuse, there is the mental abuse by perents, media etc. Children don't have a childhood any more. They are dressed in clothes totally inappropriate for their age by parents who dress them in miniature versions of themselves. They get sex education thrown at them when they have just got out of nappies. They are told what to do by magazines and not parents. They are taught to eff and jeff by their parents very early on in life. The list is endless. People in charge.(BBC, hospitals etc.)have lost sense of what is right and wrong. Everyone is guilty of allowing these things to happen, because it is too easy to look the other way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 thanks peter good point there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 There's a fundemental question developing from all this, which basically challenges the concept of "not guilty" until proven and convicted by a jury of one's peers. At best, these allegations are just that "allegations", and without supporting evidence the DPP may find it difficult to sustain convictions, especially for those cases from the distant past. This would leave the word of a child against that of an adult; the last time this occured was when the daughter of the alleged Pendle Witches pointed the finger at the rest of her family - who were subsequently hanged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 should we not be asking why they where not listen too in the frist place!!!!! and why as it taken till now to act upon? knowing that the person is dead !!! why did they not act when he was alive cases are there its not ok just saying he is dead. A person can be found guilt beyond resalable doubt after they are dead i.e. Robert Maxwell for one the DDP have cases on file still open which at the time they did not need follow up on but now they can be reopened in light of new Evidence. where he him-self as given Statements. can any poster out there find me a link where it says a person can not be found gulity after they are dead i have looked but its a mind feild i would be greatfull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 There's a fundemental question developing from all this, which basically challenges the concept of "not guilty" until proven and convicted by a jury of one's peers. At best, these allegations are just that "allegations", and without supporting evidence the DPP may find it difficult to sustain convictions, especially for those cases from the distant past. This would leave the word of a child against that of an adult; the last time this occured was when the daughter of the alleged Pendle Witches pointed the finger at the rest of her family - who were subsequently hanged. Were you happy when Jim fixed it for you then? There is none more blind than he who will not see. Too much information has been unearthed for it not to be true and even his family who at first denied the allegations knew it to be true and have now gone quiet, apart from his grand neice who also accused him, and have had the splendiferous over sized headstone removed and broken up. No medals, no sainthoods, are given for defending someone like savile. You are not appearing compassionate, and whatever other word that I cant think of just now, by quoting the innocent until proven guilty maxim, just stupid because the proof is there, has been exposed and still being exposed. Plus the police, ever so cautious, would not be preparing to arrest the living people also implicated in this sordid affair if there was any doubt to it's veracity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 should we not be asking why they where not listen too in the frist place!!!!! and why as it taken till now to act upon? knowing that the person is dead !!! why did they not act when he was alive cases are there its not ok just saying he is dead. A person can be found guilt beyond resalable doubt after they are dead i.e. Robert Maxwell for one the DDP have cases on file still open which at the time they did not need follow up on but now they can be reopened in light of new Evidence. where he him-self as given Statements. can any poster out there find me a link where it says a person can not be found gulity after they are dead i have looked but its a mind feild i would be greatfull Taradad, Trials in Absentia in the UK were not legal until 2001 when the law was altered to allow someone to be tried when not present for whatever reason (living or deceased), however they are extremely rare, strangely the Conservative party were amongst those that opposed the change!. Other nations have practised Trials in Absentia for many years, a recent case by a Turkish court has begun a trial against Britain's Duchess of York (Sarah Ferguson) for allegedly taking part in the secret filming of two orphanages in Turkey, the state-run news agency said. Sarah Ferguson faces charges of going "against the law in acquiring footage and violating privacy" of five children at one of the orphanages, the Anadolu Agency said. If convicted, she could receive a maximum sentence of 22 1/2 years in prison. The trial began yesterday, and Ferguson did not attend the opening session, the agency said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Not normally smoke without fire obs. What is more worrying is how many other little fires are "still" burning. Whilst you can never totally eradicate things, if this type of problem is minimised by the enquiries/investigations, that can only be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Just hearing hysteria in those replies, the kind that burned witches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Just hearing hysteria in those replies, the kind that burned witches. Talking through your r's again - and you have bad breath! Begining to believe you would have been one of those to turn a blind eye if one of victims had told you they had been sexually abused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 No surprise from you that folk can be punished without due process - seem to recall the incident of the little girl accused of burning a copy of the Quran - based on the say so of one individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 No surprise from you that folk can be punished without due process - seem to recall the incident of the little girl accused of burning a copy of the Quran - based on the say so of one individual. Different world obs. Stop clutching at straws. You had a completely different attitude when the police shot that bloke on the train. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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