Cleopatra Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Nobody is witch hunting. Witch hunting is going out specially to find witches. And nobody here is hunting anyone but commenting on those already named as being involved and evidence uncovered, whether you accept it or not Thomas. As for letting the authorities do their jobs, there is an abundance of recorded evidence that the authorities have not been doing their jobs but have been covering up and denying anything untowards was happening. Which is why paedophilia has thrived all over the uk. And no doubt the authorities would continue in the same vein had this all not been brought out into the public eye. There is even evidence that when in government Jack Straw introduced an act intended to silence anyone from claiming child abuse was/had occured. Even evidence that his own brother was involved with child abuse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 So it's a peculiar "British" problem is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Go ahead observer, you know you are dying to, introduce other countries into the thread. THAT will serve no useful purpose because this thread is about paedophilia in the uk alone. If there are similar problems in other coutries then it is upto their authorities to sort it out, not the UK. OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Oh, so in other countries you feel it's a matter for "the authorities" to sort out; so perhaps you could apply the same logic to this Country? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Sheesh! There is no getting through to you is there. The same logic has been applied to that country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Errm no; thanks to the hysterical tweettering, this matter is being "sorted" out on the internet rather than by the proper authorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 You maybe want to end this thread because you feel somewhat uncomfortable with it. However the lid will not close on this Pandora's box for quite a while yet. In fact there is much more to come and I would predict that it will yet make parliament collapse like a house of cards before you see the last of it. Too many people on other forums etc., are discussing this whole sordid affair in a more positive way than some people are doing on here and are more determined than posters here that the government will act on information so freely available to them instead of covering up for their cronies in parliament and high office. Failure by the government to sort out this whole sorry sordid mess will result in anarchy. Mark my words! P.S. Give all the red dots you wish. It will not make this affair go away. People on other forums discussing people who have not yet been investigated is probably what contributed to the farce with Lord McAlpine... Journalists trying to be clever and not even showing his accuser a picture so he could confirm it was the same bloke before smearing his name will not help. By putting so much speculation in the public domain and with idiots like Scofield handing a list of names to the PM which was clearly visable on camera will also not help. If the rich, famous and powerful are involved in paedophilia, they will employ the best lawyers to clear their name and handing their defence ammunition like "trial by media and internet" will allow them a route to get off as they will not be deemed as being able to get a fair trial as any jury can be corrupted by media speculation.... If people are not careful, there will be no convictions because they will all get away with the "unable to get a fair trial" defence. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Errm no; thanks to the hysterical tweettering, this matter is being "sorted" out on the internet rather than by the proper authorities. Pilchard, I already told you that the proper authoritie were not sorting it out, indeed some among their ranks were/are involved in paedophile rings. It's thanks to the so-called tweettering (did you really mean twittering?) on the internet that the problem is being given any attention at all. Would you rather people kept quiet and allow the paedophiles to continue without fear of punishment? Seem to me that you would. Those same authorities who should have sorted it out years ago are now getting nervous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 So you actually think your helping by posting Cleo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Pilchard, I already told you that the proper authoritie were not sorting it out, indeed some among their ranks were/are involved in paedophile rings. It's thanks to the so-called tweettering (did you really mean twittering?) on the internet that the problem is being given any attention at all. Would you rather people kept quiet and allow the paedophiles to continue without fear of punishment? Seem to me that you would. Those same authorities who should have sorted it out years ago are now getting nervous. So if these people get off because of what Baz said, that is ok then??? At least we know who they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 What Baz said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted November 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 Ok let look at this there was no twitting and no internet when the Waterhouse report was done. It took three-year to investigate at a cost of , £13m tax payers money. This will never happen again the government says There was 72 recommendations to local councils, social services and police deal with children in care. This will stop things now As it worked ? It exposed one of the worst child abuse scandals in history as it was then. But hold here come another so did that work ? The inquiry heard from 240 people abused as children in 40 homes but there are thought to be hundreds more victims. But back then we thought we could never have that many coming forward again can we ? 12 of victims had committed suicide as a result of being abused , hundreds of others said their lives have been destroyed by the abuse they endured. We said this would never happen again MP, Martyn Jones .debated in the Commons on the Waterhouse report into abuse at children's homes in north Wales. only six welsh MPs attended the debate out of 40. Mr Jones suspended a threat to publish the names of 45 other people named in the Waterhouse report who he believes should be investigated by police but have not been. As it been ? All the above happened in the 1970s and 80s all we had was the news papers and TV did we all care then no ……now its back why would that be, No one bothered one bit about this case at all it was a singed too history or you could say room 101 as the public was not supporting at this time . But know it’s the public who are asking the questions not the politician party’s if naming names gets the job done why not. look where we are now by not. I am still on the fence with naming names but every day I wonder why not then its all out in the open then it can be sorted but like a lot of said Its not right to do this but we will let abusers get away with it its up to police find them. Just hope the next victim is being toiled sorry public opinion was they could not name your abuser as then we may have stopped them. To get an abuser always starts with a name who is innocent then because innocent or guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted November 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 Destroyed evidence of child abuse after the Waterhouse inquiry could have been 'vital' read the full story here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Wow, I haven't read the Socialist Worker in years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Last time I saw the Socialist Worker, it was hanging on a nail in a public toilet! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Where you sharing a sheet with George Michael Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Where you sharing a sheet with George Michael Baz Is that what they call lavatory humour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Is that what they call lavatory humour? It would have been funny; but for the spelling mistakes!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted November 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 i see that Lord Justice Leveson toiled to find a way to stop people using Facebook, Twitter and other websites to spread “heinous” slurs on people when he delivers his report into media standards next month, senior MPs have warned.i wounder why ? read here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted November 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 very one thinks the BBC is good with your money here a new one The BBC’s 'dirty little secret’ lands it in a new scandal story here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 i see that Lord Justice Leveson toiled to find a way to stop people using Facebook, Twitter and other websites to spread “heinous” slurs on people when he delivers his report into media standards next month, senior MPs have warned.i wounder why ? read here Maybe because they know it would be an impossible task and therefor could be decided not to make the report public and so preventing those among their ranks and their associates from being identified. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 Tara dad, it's on the comment section, and here is his view on the subject. Christopher John Penrice Booker (born 7 October 1937) is an English journalist and author. In 1961, he was one of the founders of the magazine Private Eye, and has contributed to it since then. He has been a columnist for The Sunday Telegraph since 1990.[1] He has taken a stance which runs counter to the scientific consensus on a number of issues, including global warming, the link between passive smoking and cancer,[2], and the dangers posed by asbestos.[3] In 2009, he published The Real Global Warming Disaster, described by The Observer as "the definitive climate sceptics' manual". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted November 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 came a corss this the other day in the Catholic Herald back in 2011 story: Jimmy Savile’s obituaries mentioned his charity work: but why the conspiracy of silence about his faith? was this the start of the allam bells ring ??? take a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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