observer Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 What's the point of raking up allegations about Sir Jimmy Saville OBE - the guy's dead and can't defend his reputation; and is beyond any criminal retribution in any case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Because thats what the Main Stream media do these days. Bring up irelevancies and ignore the difficult major issues. Just print things to sell papers, keep the masses entertained. Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Did he fix it for you Obs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 IF true then it's hardly irrelevant to the girls he abused and raped, eh what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Yeah, let sleeping pervs lie, eh? Â "Uncle Jimmy" Â FF to around 3.20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I'm sure the matter would have been raised by one or more of the girls concerned first and, IF the allegations be true, they should still have let sleeping dogs lie? Would you had it been one of yours, eh what? I'm pretty sure that no-one in the media would have woke up one day and thought, 'Hummm... Jimmy Saville is dead. I'm going to dig and delve and hunt around for any information that would prove he was a perverted paedophile'. He never married but dressed so camp they would be more likely to think let's find some evidence that he was gay and had sexual affairs with other men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 He never married but dressed so camp they would be more likely to think let's find some evidence that he was gay and had sexual affairs with other men. Â It may well have started out that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Possibly, but there were no records of these girls being abused to be unearthed. So, where did the accusations come from? The girls themselves. Did they conspire to accuse the man of abusing them? I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 He was quite the devout Catholic, do they have a nonce wing in heaven? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlady54 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 The girls involved have a right to be heard and believed so they can draw a line under it and move on with their lives. It appears that many people associated with the BBC knew something was going on at the time but did nothing, wanting to protect Mr Savile's 'reputation'. It has been confirmed that these girls were not connected but told the same or similar stories. Even those meant to be in charge of the victims at the approved school chose to keep it quiet because they feared losing the charity money. It really doesn't matter if the perpetrator is now dead, it is the abused who deserve to be heard now. Â The cover-up at the time was wrong and similar cover-ups are still wrong. You only have to look at the the recent Rochdale cases where the victims were not believed and far too many people turned a blind eye to child abuse, preferring to blame the victims for 'lifestyle' choice. This should not happen and the common belief is that the same is going on in many more of our towns and cities. Â As I remember it, if a child reports abuse of any description, they must be believed and the incident reported to the relevant official who should investigate the facts. Children are being let down by adults who are too politically correct and can't use their common sense. Where a child under 16 is involved, surely a criminal offence has been committed and should be investigated as such. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Cannot but agree with you entirely lady and any who say let sleeping dogs lie because the man is dead should hang their heads in shame. Catholic or none catholic, faith or no faith, it really doesn't matter. It shouldn't happen. I would ask that nobody make light of this subject because those girls would have suffered terribly, mentally and/or physically, and possibly still suffering. The people who knew it was happening should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for covering it up and must be brought to justice for allowing it to continue. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I'm not making light of the subject, I'm having a pop at the late nonce, Jimmy Saville. Â I agree with most of what you and SL said. Â Oh, and this: Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 IF there were "victims", it should have been reported at the time of the alleged offence - one alleged incident was reported, but the Police investigation appears to have been inconclusive - maybe he fixed it?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 IF there were "victims", it should have been reported at the time of the alleged offence - one alleged incident was reported, but the Police investigation appears to have been inconclusive - maybe he fixed it?! Â If there were "victims" it should have been reported at the time, you say, then go on to say one alleged incident WAS reported. Then you make a whimsical remark like it was no great deal. Hummm. These were children and as already reported were too afraid to tell anyone, and maybe too embarrassed, as is often the case with an abused child, and possibly thinking who would take their word against a well known, popular celebrity?. The fact that they did not report it does not mean it didn't happen. Ok, consider this if just one child was abused by this man maybe people would doubt her, say she made it up, whatever. The fact is that several girls all unrelated and probably unknown to each other and living in different parts of the country all are making the same accusations. Not coincidence, I'm sure, so must be truth in what they claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Obs, this bloke felt so confident about his influence over others that he could exercise his proclivities on national television. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I agree that the alleged victims have a right to be heard, but it is sad that he can no longer defend himself. I was never a fan of his, but over the years he did raise millions for charity, I hope they are not just after money from his estate!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 tum-tee-tum-tee-tum.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 It is a shame Cleo, that you do not feel the same about the Coptic girls in Egypt, who are kidnapped forced to marry a Muslim. Their id card is then changed to Muslim, and as you know it is illegal to change from a Muslim in Egypt. Â tum tee indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Da-de-da-de-daaaa. Not biting. Â Yes I will - Â What a load of sh*te you spout! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Fught, was he exercising his proclivities on national TV after the 9 o clock watershed?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 BBC news night report  http://m.youtube.com/?reason=8&rdm=3595#/watch?v=f1cdxJFr-pc&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Df1cdxJFr-pc  Another from Jihad watch  http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/egypt-more-christian-girls-abducted-forced-to-convert-to-islam.html  Tum te tum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) This topic is about Jimmy Saville's less than savoury activitiea with young british girls but you, ass*?, have to turn the subject to Egypt, well get it into your thick skull, the lady is not biting! Edited October 2, 2012 by Dizzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) Shall I put it on another thread ass*? :lol: Edited October 2, 2012 by Dizzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) Put wherever you wish, up your r's if you like, ass*?. I still wont bite. It's a sign you have nothing usefull left to say on a subject when you turn it round to Egypt. But, the lady isn't biting, There, I said it again. Edited October 2, 2012 by Dizzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Theirs a tv program on itv next week about Jimmy Saville, The question has to be asked, what do these girls want by coming forward now, he is no longer capable of either defending himself or answering to his alleged crimes.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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