P J Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 In true Democratic fashion, just to sate the despite of the O.P. if we were to have a referendum on Monarchy versus Republic, by how much do you think the British public would prefer to stay as they are? I feel it would be a massive majority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 I feel you are 100% correct :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Well, she is Queen after all!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 There is, it seems, a Republic movement in Britain. It is quite well supported, nearly 12000 online supporters. Incidentally when the Queen signed up on Facebook she got nearly 250000 followers in the first weekend. :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 The queen is on facebook OMG maybe I should add her so I have 3 friends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Unfortunately, being born in the right bed, appears to be the sole qualification of a Monarch; anachronistic to say the least. However, as the cost and pomp of alternate systems can be just as high, and the sycophancy that it encourages; it may be the least worst option available. After all, elected politicians havn't really proved to be pinnacles of virtue, and selection by birth, rather than election, means that the only crowd pleasing needed is a Royal wave from a horse drawn carriage, accompanied by a quaintly dressed entourage; which has the advantage of bringing in the tourists. So perhaps the answer for the 21st Century, would be to rationalise/simplify the cost-benefits, to ensure the balance of fiscal benefit goes to the State. Hence, a more austere approach, in line with modern times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Maybe she reads Warrington Worldwide too Dizzy. Just in case she does - Hi Your Majesty! How's you doing girl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Unfortunately, being born in the right bed, appears to be the sole qualification of a Monarch; anachronistic to say the least. However, as the cost and pomp of alternate systems can be just as high, and the sycophancy that it encourages; it may be the least worst option available. After all, elected politicians havn't really proved to be pinnacles of virtue, and selection by birth, rather than election, means that the only crowd pleasing needed is a Royal wave from a horse drawn carriage, accompanied by a quaintly dressed entourage; which has the advantage of bringing in the tourists. So perhaps the answer for the 21st Century, would be to rationalise/simplify the cost-benefits, to ensure the balance of fiscal benefit goes to the State. Hence, a more austere approach, in line with modern times. obs, you have taken the words right out of my mouth although rather more eloquently, as you say the role of the Monarchy requires bringing up to-date, to me there is a vast difference in retaining some of the colourful pageantry that brings in revenue from tourism and having a system that is based on an archaic tradition that is expensive and wasteful especially in these austere times. Having read that through I think that is what you have already said, however I shall leave it posted!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 The monarchy IS being modernised. Female first offspring have the right to accesion over younger male siblings now! Sheesh! these people who insist on fixing things that already work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 The monarchy IS being modernised. Female first offspring have the right to accesion over younger male siblings now! Sheesh! these people who insist on fixing things that already work! That is only one issue, plenty more to go at Cleo!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Strange how there isn't the same moan about giving hundreds of millions in overseas aid where there is NO return on the money. I wonder if the knockers would do the Queens job that was thrust upon her? And she probably works a lot harder than anyone on here and HAS to be polite at all times. Just wait until you get Queen Camilla, then you will really have something to moan about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 The Bitch Queen! Incidently, will she be entitled queen considering that she was a divorcee and adulterer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 The Bitch Queen! Incidently, will she be entitled queen considering that she was a divorcee and adulterer? Wheras Charles Windsor....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 One thing for sure is that Charles will not reign for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 A rather K9 scenario for the next in line then? A dog and a bitch on the throne at the same time - guess there'll be plently of bowing and scraping then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 One thing for sure is that Charles will not reign for long. Do you want to clarify - before MI5, MI6, Special Branch and , for all I know the millitant wing of RoSPA come knocking - definitley open to interpretation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Certainly, Charles is already into his old age. By the time our Gracious Queen (long may she reign) dies he will be well into his old age and ready to pop his clogs himself. Rather like King Edward VII who reigned for only nine years before he died, after the death of his mother, Queen Victoria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Not if he lasts as long as his Granny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Certainly, Charles is already into his old age. By the time our Gracious Queen (long may she reign) dies he will be well into his old age and ready to pop his clogs himself. Rather like King Edward VII who reigned for only nine years before he died, after the death of his mother, Queen Victoria. Phew - can cancel that room at the tower now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 But if is mother herself (long may she reign) lives as long as his granny..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Buck Palace could be turned into an old peoples home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 But if is mother herself (long may she reign) lives as long as his granny..... Besides genetics there are other factors which affect longevity - in the case of Edward VII, among other things, he was a heavy smoker, as I believe was George VI - as far as I am aware Charles Windsor is a non-smoker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Buck Palace could be turned into an old peoples home! But only for refined old gentlefolk. We don't want any old riffraff living there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 29, 2011 Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Besides genetics there are other factors which affect longevity - in the case of Edward VII, among other things, he was a heavy smoker, as I believe was George VI - as far as I am aware Charles Windsor is a non-smoker. Another can of worms being opened here I think. The smokophobes have woken up! :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted November 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2011 Another can of worms being opened here I think. The smokophobes have woken up! :shock: My posting wasn't saying individuals shouldn't smoke but that it leads to early deaths (you must also believe in a flat earth if you would deny that). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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