observer Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 - driving licences be restricted to folk with common sense? When they finally move on, they have to cross oncoming traffic to get back onto the correct side of the road - which is a dangerous manoevre. [ 21.02.2008, 12:13: Message edited by: observer ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I think drivers who do that are no-brainers. It seems more trouble than it's worth. Quicker to park opposite and walk across. As for the common sense bit, would the adjudicator possess any? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Hang about obs, would any one with common sense Spend ?15000 on a car ?300 to insure it ?160 to tax it watch it depreciate in value by ?2000+ per year pay ?1.05 for a litre of petrol to get where he wants to go, sit for hours in traffic jams only to find nowhere to park when he gets there. [ 21.02.2008, 13:34: Message edited by: wolfie ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Errm, yes, if your a lazy B ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Why indeed when you can use our wonderful public transport (and Pink Ladies if you're of the female sort). Personally I prefer to walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Seems that all drivers are lazy B's with no common sense then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Most are lazy Bs; but some are even lazier and need to get to within two meters of that shop doorway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 but the only real cost of the car is not the 15k, but the 2k depreciation as you recoup the rest on a sale, the ?360 tax and insurance plus the cost of running it, lets say ?20 a week adds another ?1k a year. so just short of ?3,360 per year or ?64 a week, for a new car for a year incl all costs. ?9.23 a day now calculate the costs of public transport (driver working in manchester for example based on him spending ?20 a week in an mid sized car on petrol 1.6l as used above) would at least involve 2 bus and 1 train journeys. bus each way ?1.30=?2.60 train (virgin rail prices pre9am-post5pm cheap day return) ?7.10 total=?9.70 via public transport total=?9.23 by you own ?15,000 car. time by car 1 hour warrington to manchester city center in average rushour traffic. public transport 46m train, 34 minutes bus, plus 10 minutes waiting+ 5 minutes to walk between bus station and train= 1h40m each way and lets face it time is more important than money for most people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 You forgot the fact that when you sell it you will need to buy another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 A car is viewed as essential by many; so essential in fact, that some households have more than one, thus clustering up terraced streets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Public transport is an area that successive governments have failed to get to grips with. Cheap and plentiful buses would make a lot of difference, and when I say plentiful I mean a service that doesn't suddenly disappear at 5:30 in the afternoon! It's no wonder Warrington town centre is a ghost town by 6pm (apart from the pubs that is!) Instead of using our money to bail out private banks the government should be improving this area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 I suspect the reason Parliament rescued a "private" bank was to restore public confidence in the banking system, protect savers and mortgage holders; many of whom could be MPs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 I don't remember the bus station being in the market before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 ERRM NOPE; but they had the opportunity to re-configurate the Town Centre; but instead of planning it to be people friendly; they lay back and allowed the developers to do it - all for the sake of getting a Denenhams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Originally posted by Eddie: You forgot the fact that when you sell it you will need to buy another. maybe not, but its an ongoing expense if you do with similar figures to above on a yearly basis..as is the ongoing costs of public transport if your need to continue using that is...its not rocket sience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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